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EP205 How Many Times Per Day Should You Eat?

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Dr. Martin Jr.: Hello, I'm Dr. Martin Jr.

Dr. Martin Sr.: I'm Dr. Martin Sr.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And this is The Doctor Is In Podcast, and this is episode 205. Now, I've been away for a while, you've been on your own. I've been listening, [00:00:30] I've been critiquing.

Dr. Martin Sr.: You've been listening?

Dr. Martin Jr.: Taking notes, critiquing, checking your references, doing it all, but I'm back now after a while. No fanfare either. Nobody messaged us and saying, "Hey, where's Junior?" Nobody missed anything.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Well, it's always interesting when you're doing it alone. I'm always worried whether I'm actually recording or not. That's always the biggest thing because you never know until Brandi, who is our producer back there, she does the listening, but I can't tell if I'm recording. [00:01:00] So anyway, everything worked out good. It was good.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, it was a-

Dr. Martin Sr.: Well, you were busy all summer. You weren't around to do any podcasts.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. So now I got a new agent. I fired my agent. I brought in a new one. We've settled all the contract demands, and so I'm back at least for one episode, until we'll see what happens next week, but we've got a lot of fascinating stuff to cover, a lot of things to go through.

Dr. Martin Jr.: We'll spend most of our time talking about a study that just came out that is fascinating and it answers [00:01:30] a question that people ask us all the time. So we'll talk about that, but before we get into that, I just want to, we'll just chat a little bit about something that we've kind of talked about throughout the summer, which is there's a massive almost suppression going on in the Internet space when it comes to Google search results, YouTube results, right?

Dr. Martin Jr.: There's a lot of people complaining that these companies are only letting you see what you, it's going to sound conspiracy theory here, but [00:02:00] that they're fixing what shows up in the searches that people are having when they Google something or when they go on YouTube, and they're now favouring more medical, more hospitals, more web MDs and people have been wondering about that.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, a study came out that looked at the data and see, Google goes through these massive updates in their algorithms every so often, and they came out with a big one and then they came out with another one again in August of '15. So really what this [00:02:30] study did is they looked at traffic to all the different websites prior to this update and then after, and it's amazing.

Dr. Martin Jr.: It's actually terrifying because what's happening is that they've, I mean, it's a fact, they've suppressed a lot of this information that people usually get in favour of more medical thinking.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Again, rather than, so it didn't matter if your page had more traffic, more reads, it didn't matter, that you would get punished based on whatever that hidden [00:03:00] algorithm is, and then they would only show what they want you to see.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Again, rather than letting the individual decide what they want to read or what their interest is, Google's telling you we're going going to, they're going to banish things to the second page of Google, which is, the second page of Google, to be honest, is kind of like every Western when they have that tumbleweed blowing across.

Dr. Martin Jr.: I mean, nobody goes that far to look for anything. That's too much work, right? We just don't do it. So that first page and that first four or five results in Google is everything when it comes to [00:03:30] online businesses. Now, I'll give you some examples, just to give you an idea.

Dr. Martin Jr.: I went through this with most of our staff, I showed them this, we did a video chat and I Googled a health topic in Google, and then I did the same thing in Bing, which nobody uses, but that's the Microsoft version. Then the same thing in a couple of others to show the vast differences that come up. Google, the top search results were all medical, web MD, Cleveland Clinic, all these kind of things.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And for the most part [00:04:00] the articles are boring because they're just giving you facts. They're not even written by, Web MD aren't written by MDs, they're written by health reporters, but it doesn't matter.

Dr. Martin Jr.: The results are, they're shocking, right? So I just want to quickly go over a couple of stats because this is fascinating and it goes to show you again what we're up against when you go outside the box, what you're up against, right?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Everybody listening to this would be familiar for example with Dr. Axe, right? Dr. Axe website, they write on a ton [00:04:30] of topics and generally, for the longest time, in almost any health condition they would show up first or second in a lot of traffic searches.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, Dr. Axe in the last, since April 15 2018 to August 15 2019, when that algorithm change took place, Dr. Axe has lost 91.62% of visibility, negative 91% and it's true if you go Google a health topic on Bing and you go Google a health topic on [00:05:00] Google, bang, he'll show up first or second every time when he's not even the top page.

Dr. Martin Jr.: He's banished to the second page on Google.

Dr. Martin Sr.: And that's, they did that, obviously it's on purpose, right?

Dr. Martin Jr.: 100% it's on purpose because they would deem his information less credible. And again they enter into partnerships with drug companies, whatever, right?

Dr. Martin Jr.: There's these partnerships. So now all these hospital websites have gotten more credibility. YouTube the same thing. You can have a boring video on high blood pressure show up at the top because it's from the Cleveland Clinic and the guy speaking puts [00:05:30] you to sleep and he's talking to other scientists and it's got 15,000 views.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And you can have another video by another doctor down at the bottom of the search results on the first page that's got 2 million views. And again, because they want you to get the information from the Cleveland Clinic, rather than getting it from this other person. So they're censoring the news.

Dr. Martin Jr.: That's what it is. They're telling you what they want you to see, which tells us, again, as consumers, as people looking out for our own health, unfortunately [00:06:00] we're being manipulated from a search level and you control the flow of information. You really control what you read and it's like that's what's happening, right?

Dr. Martin Jr.: That's just one example. I'll give you another example. Dr Mercola, again, well-known alternative health guy, right? And he's under attack on a whole bunch of different things. He's had a minus 84% visibility since the algorithm.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Again, his articles just won't show up. If people are searching, for example, vitamin D, his articles won't show [00:06:30] up, they just won't show up. You'll see, articles from the Cleveland Clinic or Web MD,

Dr. Martin Sr.: Even though he might have 2 million hits on it. Right?

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. Even though, and that's the problem, right? There are a lot of these big time. For example, I'll just read a couple other ones 'cause there's some big ones that are out there, that have absolutely just got hammered and I'll give you the opposite. Mayo Clinic, since this algorithm, they've had an increase of 60% visibility.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Web MD has had an increase of 30% visibility and everybody else has been hit. I'll just [00:07:00] read a couple of them. For example, this other guy, Mark's Daily Apple is down 65% and he writes from a paleo point of view and he's got a lot of good articles, but he's down almost 70%.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Dr. Weil's down 65%. Wellness mama was a big one, 65%. Mind Body Green, another big one, 55%. But the biggest guys that got hit the hardest was Dr. Axe at 91% and you know, Mercola is 84%. A couple have 93%. I mean, they're [00:07:30] getting killed. And it's unfortunate because that's how people do research. One of the biggest irritants that I see, and I see this shared on Facebook every once in a while, and I see it shared on social media.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Some doctor will have a picture in his waiting room that says, don't confuse your Google search with my medical degree. For somehow they're so special, they got a medical degree. Therefore, they're the only authority whenever it comes to. Don't come in there, do research on yourself. Don't look things up.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Heaven forbid you look [00:08:00] up something on the internet, right? And you go and say, "Hey, listen, what's all this stuff about statin drugs not working?" Oh no, don't confuse your Google search for my medical degree. Right? Don't confuse. How dare you.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And that's idiotic. We live in a time where there's so much information out there and really everything's a community and we all learn off each other. For example, in our Martin Clinic private Facebook group, the contribution from the people in the group is awesome. I scroll through that stuff [00:08:30] all the time, read it. Good articles or sharing and all that kind of stuff.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Good information. It's like a group crowd think and that, you know, people have experiences with stuff. Hey, anybody try? Yes, this worked well, that stuff is invaluable. That's the power of internet, is that connection. Now you have this going on where they're trying to censor, they're trying to slow down the information.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Especially again, if you don't fit in the box, if you think differently, you're going to get punished.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Google's going to punish you. Facebook punishes it. [00:09:00] There was an article that was shared on Facebook everywhere, even into our private group and Facebook deemed it fake news, so they took it down across, it's been shared, I think, a million times. Took it down across everything. And they sent us a notification saying that "We remove this post because one person deemed it fake news and therefore it's fake news."

Dr. Martin Jr.: Now we didn't write it, obviously. It was written by somebody else, but it doesn't matter. That's terrifying. Who decides these things? [00:09:30] But anyways, that's what we're up against when we talk outside the box. Now you and I, we're not even really that controversial in any way. We talk a lot about eating and we talk about supplements and that's just what we do.

Dr. Martin Jr.: We like to present as much information as possible for people. But just to let you know what's going on, what you're starting to read on the internet has been curated for you, filtered. They want you to see what they want you to read. Sometimes you have to switch server or switch search engines. [00:10:00] Sometimes you have to do a little bit more digging, but it's crazy. It's absolutely unfortunate. But anyways, that's a long-

Dr. Martin Sr.: And they have a lot of power, when you think of it.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well they can. Yeah. Because again, you just search a topic and you just read what's given to you. You'll maybe click on two or three links or whatever and they're telling you what to read. But that happened over the summer and that came out, that study, looking at the data came out and some people wrote about it, but it probably didn't show up anywhere.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But people are just like, "Hey listen, this is [00:10:30] censorship, whether you like the information or not."

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: You know how people decide what's relevant or not. They read what, they either read it or they don't. At the end of the day, make it fairly available to everybody and let people make their own decisions. But they don't. And really, at the end of the day, that's the bottom line. They don't trust you to make the right decision.

Dr. Martin Jr.: They want to tell you what to do, rather than give you the facts and then make the decision. That's where we're at now. I just wanted to share that because you and I talked about this over the summer a little bit and we never really had a chance to share that with everybody. But [00:11:00] that's what's going on.

Dr. Martin Jr.: All right, let's change gears a little bit and let's talk about the one study that came out because you know, it's fascinating. People have been told for a long time, really came out. Oprah's trainer, I remember years ago, came out and did an interview saying, "If you want to lose weight, you got to eat six times a day, six small meals a day, and that gets the engine,"

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, metabolism.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. It's like stoking the fire.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: That somehow if you eat six times a day, your metabolism is always going and you're going to lose [00:11:30] weight. That's the best way to do it. And there are a lot of people who, they'll eat six meals a day and they'll start to lose weight. But we'll talk about why that is in a second.

Dr. Martin Jr.: This study was done and okay, before we even do that, one more thing. One of the complaints that you hear when it comes to low carb all the time is, well, listen, if all things are equal, if calories are equated, you hear that all the time.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Calories are equated, you can lose. There's a lot of things you can do to lose weight. I'm not disagreeing with that. [00:12:00] But that's what they always say. Oh, low carb's not better. If all calories are equal and the person eats the same amount, they eat low carb or whatever. And even though studies don't agree with that, but it doesn't matter, that's what you hear all the time.

Dr. Martin Jr.: So this study was well done, in a sense that it had two groups of people, diabetics, by the way. Two groups of diabetics. One group ate three meals a day, the other group ate six meals a day, and they had the same calories and macro, same amount of protein, same amount of fat, same amount [00:12:30] of carbohydrates.

Dr. Martin Jr.: The only difference between the two groups was not in the types of foods, the amount of foods. The only difference was the amount of times they ate in a day.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And that's why this is interesting because you and I have said this many times. When you eat is not as important, but it's very important when you eat as well. So what did this study show? Well, the group that ate three meals a day, I'll just read you the conclusion of the study. Here's what they found.

Dr. Martin Jr.: [00:13:00] The people that are eating three meals a day, in contrast to those that were eating six meals a day, led to weight loss. They lost weight, significant reduction in insulin, better appetite control, better blood sugars, and they needed less insulin in the day, which is pretty much every thing that you want to go right when you're trying to change the way you eat is pretty much that.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Most diabetics would do better if they never [00:13:30] snacked. And we've said this forever, you and I, we've talked about this forever. If they can eat, even eat bigger meals and snack less, their blood sugars would be better regardless of what they're eating, in a sense.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Now you combine that with bringing the carbs down, the crappy carbs, bringing down those processed fats. And all that. That's how you reverse or that's how you treat diabetes right there. They've shown it.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And it's funny because again, people [00:14:00] always say, "Now okay, what about people who can, they eat six meals a day and they lose weight?" Well, I'll tell you what's going on. There are two types of people in the real world, when it comes to dieting. There's two types of people.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Those that are metabolically healthy.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And those that are metabolically unhealthy. A person that has a normal blood sugar reaction and normal insulin reaction to food.

Dr. Martin Sr.: And do you know what the stats are on that? Do you remember that? I [00:14:30] think we talked about that you a long time ago.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yes. Very low.

Dr. Martin Sr.: 12% of the population, 88% are metabolically challenged. Where they, like you said, their insulin is high or they have metabolic syndrome, they have high blood pressure, they have usually high levels of uric acid and all of the above.

Dr. Martin Sr.: And only 12%, they say, of the population, 12% is actually metabolically good. And they often get all the ink. [crosstalk 00:15:00].

Dr. Martin Sr.: [00:15:00] Well, I can eat six, I eat six times a day and I lost weight.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, and the reality is that's not how most people, they're not metabolically healthy. What happens with the average person, like you said, the great majority of people is they have an exaggerated insulin response when they eat.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Now insulin, it does a lot of things, obviously, and insulin is very important for you, but at the end of the day, insulin is what they call a food hormone. Meaning, when you eat food, insulin is secreted. [00:15:30] Makes sense, right? You're eating food, it's broken down. Your blood sugar levels spike, they go up. After every meal, your blood sugar levels go up. That's what happens when you eat food.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Makes sense. That food is broken down to glucose and glucose is meant for fast acting fuel. You either need it or you don't need it. If you don't need it right now, you have to do something with it. You can't keep it in your blood because it's toxic.

Dr. Martin Jr.: High blood sugar level is dangerous and low blood sugar level is dangerous. So you eat food, you've got a bunch of glucose in there. [00:16:00] If you're not using it right then and there, you have to do something. So your body takes it, secretes insulin, insulin then, it partitions, it gets rid of the glucose in the blood. That's what happens.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: For a normal person, the average person, the great majority of people that are metabolically damaged when they eat food and their blood sugar levels spike, well, their blood sugar levels may even spike abnormally, they secrete a ton of insulin. They're always in storage. They're taking stuff, they're always moving [00:16:30] it into storage.

Dr. Martin Jr.: If you're eating six times a day and you're always secreting insulin, guess what's happening? It's not good. You're creating an unhealthy insulin response in your body because every time you eat, you have to secrete insulin and if you're metabolically damaged, you're going to secrete a lot more insulin than you need to, because chances are you're either insulin resistant or your body overreacts.

Dr. Martin Jr.: You pump a ton of insulin out and then you take all that glucose you just ate and it goes into storage. You're [00:17:00] storing it. And if your muscles are full and if you haven't depleted your glycogen in your muscles, they're full of storage, there's no room, then your liver is full, you make more, you put it in fat and you can always make more fat cells.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Generally speaking now, which is why you and I always say that obesity, fatty liver, those are defence mechanisms your body has in order for you not to be diabetic.

Dr. Martin Sr.: It's amazing that we used to talk about that a lot, [00:17:30] about how the body has the ability to keep you away from diabetes. So if you're a diabetic, just think of how many roadblocks you had to go through, in your body, to become a diabetic.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And some people can't store fat the same as somebody else. So they get diabetic and they don't even have any kind of obesity going on.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Exactly.

Dr. Martin Jr.: They've got fatty liver and they're not even overweight. It's because they don't have the ability to make fat cells to store the glucose, so then their blood sugar levels get out of whack very quickly, because they can't just take it [00:18:00] and shove it into their liver. It's full.

Dr. Martin Jr.: They've got a fatty liver and then their fat cells are full and that's what's happening. When you eat six times a day and you got a blood sugar issue, especially, this study, and there's other ones that have been done in the past, but once again, this is showing that eating six times a day for the average person is not good.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Now you and I have said this, and research shows this, blood sugar is a lagging indicator.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Meaning when you [00:18:30] start to have blood sugar issues, if your blood sugar levels are starting to get abnormally high or they're on the high end of normal, but they're climbing up, you've had a problem for years, maybe even a decade before that, you've had an insulin problem. You've over secreted insulin for a long time. You've been storing, right? There's a lot of things that goes on.

Dr. Martin Jr.: High insulin, you're creating a ton of inflammation. There's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Oxidative damage.

Dr. Martin Jr.: All that stuff. By the time that your sugar levels are actually a problem [00:19:00] and you become a diabetic, there's been something going on metabolically for a long time and now you get to the point. All right, so if you're listening and you're not diabetic, but you have insulin resistance, and we have on our website information on how do you know if you have insulin resistance, some of the more classic signs of that.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But most people listening have an issue with high insulin. You can have that for 10 years plus, sometimes shorter, depending on the individual. You can have elevated insulin before your blood sugars become a mess. [00:19:30] Even if your blood sugar, even if you're not diabetic, eating three times a day or snacking less is still the best thing you can do for yourself, even if your blood sugar levels are, "Oh yeah, I've got my sugar levels tested, they're normal." Their insulin may be the problem. For a lot of people, that's what it is.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: For the average person listening to this podcast, which is why in our serial killers course that we talk about, our program, snack less, eat bigger meals, you're better off to eat bigger meals and snack less than you are to eat breakfast, snack, lunch, [00:20:00] snack, supper, snack.

Dr. Martin Jr.: You're eating all day, insulin's pumping all day. Your eating window's huge. That's just not for the average person. Leave that to fitness people who don't have metabolically damaged metabolism and they've got normal response.

Dr. Martin Jr.: They'll mess it up for later in life.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But leave that to them. For you, that's listening. Eat less frequently, for sure. Frequency matters. This study shows it and previous ones as well. Frequency matters. Eat less often. [00:20:30] And you know, we talk a lot about fasting.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Intermittent fasting.

Dr. Martin Jr.: All that kind of stuff, right, doc,? Those kinds of things are great for keeping insulin low. There's a lot of things that do, but we wanted to share this study with you because it's a question that we get asked. We get asked a lot about snacking.

Dr. Martin Jr.: We get asked a lot about these things and you know what's funny, the people that didn't snack in this study, they were less hungry, they had less cravings. It makes sense. The blood sugar levels are not going up and down like crazy.

Dr. Martin Jr.: It may take a couple [00:21:00] of days to adjust to that because you're used to eating a snack, you're used to this. But again, when you stick with it and you eat less, you eat three square meals a day, you're going to be less hungry because your blood sugar levels are going to be less of a mess.

Dr. Martin Jr.: They're going to be less up and down, yo-yo spiking, less cravings. And I think part of the cravings, as well, aside from blood sugar is again, when you have high insulin, you have high cortisol and cortisol was bringing up your blood sugar.

Dr. Martin Jr.: I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes when you keep insulin [00:21:30] low, as well. It's a fascinating study. How many times a day should you eat three meals. If you're not fasting, three square meals a day. If you're fasting, two square meals a day is ideal.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Or again, just remember if you're metabolically damaged, eat less frequently, no question. And a lot of research and anti-aging shows when you eat less frequently and less food, you create less inflammation. You live longer.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: So [00:22:00] again, we live in a day and age, who benefits? I sound like a conspiracy theory today. I should have brought some tinfoil for this episode and just put it on my head, because everything I'm talking about is conspiracy theory. It's not a coincidence that the message coming out about eating six times a day, come on, who benefits from us eating all day?

Dr. Martin Jr.: You know what you got to do to lose weight and get healthy? Eat all day, snack all day, eat six times, eat three. [00:22:30] Grandparents ate three meals a day. Food industry comes along and says, "Do you know what really works well?"

Dr. Martin Jr.: That's like a guy pulling into the alley. "Psst. Come here. You really want to know the secret to losing weight? You really want to know the secret to getting healthy? No, no. Three times a day? Nah, that's for your parents. This is the new thing."

Dr. Martin Sr.: The new thing.

Dr. Martin Jr.: "You want to get your metabolism rolling."

Dr. Martin Sr.: And that really was a very popular thing.

Dr. Martin Jr.: It was massive.

Dr. Martin Sr.: If you think of, in the eighties and nineties and well, even today. But that was a big, big thing. [00:23:00] Anybody that was a guru was stoke that fire, stoke that fire, right?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Your body is like a fire. Don't let the fire go out.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, and that's why it's such a funny thing. But again, the guy was on, I remember watching the interview myself, and I mean, he's not the only one that say this, but he talked about eat breakfast right away. Get up, eat. Because it gets that metabolism going.

Dr. Martin Jr.: I mean it does? That's funny. It gets your insulin going.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: It gets your glucose going, it gets your [00:23:30] glucagon going. It gets everything going. Yeah, it does.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. And if you're metabolically challenged, which like I said, almost 90% of the population is in that category. And we can confirm that, because we see it in the office. It's incredible, right? And it has an effect on everything. I always teach food, so you're going to get a lecture.

Dr. Martin Sr.: We're always going to get a lecture on food and that and the biggest thing and the way [00:24:00] we divide food is not by calories, not by macros, whatever. Not that we don't talk about that, but we talk about how much insulin.

Dr. Martin Sr.: If you want to be healthy.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, from a health perspective, you have to look at each bite as a chemical reaction that takes place. Either that food is going to promote anti-inflammatory healthy living, or it's going to promote inflammatory unhealthy living.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Every bite can heal. Every bite can lead to sickness. That's [00:24:30] how it works. Now we're not saying to be perfect, we're not that at all. And in fact, again, if you're metabolically healthy or you're somewhat metabolically healthy and you're not a full diabetic, you don't have to be as strict as a diabetic does.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: When you have diabetes and your blood sugar levels are flying out of control, you unfortunately have lost the right to be less strict.

Dr. Martin Jr.: You have to unfortunately tighten things up considerably because your body overreacts now to everything. [00:25:00] When you're a diabetic, you are allergic to crappy carbs.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Sugar, you're allergic to it. It's like an anaphylactic bee sting allergy that goes on in your body when you are a diabetic and you consume sugar. If you're a diabetic, the research is crystal clear. Eat less often, eat bigger meals, but eat less often and you'll be better off. That's the data. That's the data.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Now listen, if you want to get your blood pressure up, go follow [00:25:30] on social media. Some of these diabetic clinics and they post their recipes, it's insane. They put one up the other day was like 80 grams of carbs for breakfast. I'm like, "Are you trying to cause? Is it brought to you by the makers of insulin?"

Dr. Martin Jr.: Are they trying to get you to inject three times before lunchtime?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Or Metformin or whatever.

Dr. Martin Jr.: I remember when we did the radio show, you were off one time and I filled in for you and I remember one guy calling in and he was having a hard time in the morning. He said, "In the mornings [00:26:00] my blood sugar levels are always up and down and I've got to take insulin."

Dr. Martin Jr.: I'm like, "Well, what do you eat for breakfast?" He's like, "Well, I have toast, I have cereal and I have some oatmeal." And I'm like, "All right, well I guarantee if you had bacon and eggs, you wouldn't be having the same issue. In fact, I would say, do the bacon and eggs challenge. You won't have the blood sugar levels in the morning if you're doing that."

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But he was following the advice of a sheet that he got. Again, I think if you take, again, my tinfoil is coming out. If you take, [00:26:30] you know those, the blue light things that they put over a crime scene? If you flash over a room and you don't want to do that in a hotel room and stuff like that, 'cause you don't want to see the stuff that's in there.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But the blue light, right, to pick up these things. I think if you took a blue light over these sheets that they get sometimes from dieticians, it would have the seal underneath it from the drug company or the food companies. Like Kellogg. Their seal would be underneath the paper because it, how do you give that kind of advice? It's just beyond me.

Dr. Martin Jr.: It's beyond me. But it's still being given out [00:27:00] there every day. And for us saying that, we're the crazy ones. We're the ones that Google is trying to censor.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Google don't want to give you the other side.

Dr. Martin Jr.: No. Heaven forbid, if it makes sense to cut down on sugar, if you're diabetic, we'd better suppress your message. We'd better not get that out there. So we're going to, you know. Anyways.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Has no effect.

Dr. Martin Jr.: No effect. That's right. But anyways, again, this is an episode we wanted to do for a while and this study came out, so it just gave us an opportunity to talk about that. But again, we're out of time, there's a lot of ways for people to get ahold [00:27:30] of us.

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Dr. Martin Sr.: Yep.

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