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Dr. Martin Jr.: You're listening to The Doctor's In podcast from martinclinic.com. Although we share a lot of practical and in our opinion, awesome information, what you hear on this podcast is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat or prevent any disease. It's strictly for informational purposes. So, enjoy.
Hello, I'm Dr. Martin Jr.
Dr. Martin Sr.: And I'm Dr. Martin Sr.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And this is The Doctor's In podcast. And [00:00:30] this is episode 168. And today we wanna talk about a study done on intermittent fasting that came out kind of middle of last year, that didn't get a lot of press but it's actually a fascinating study that we're gonna talk about and for this time of year, a lot of people are ... you know, we're recording this in mid-January of 2019, a lot of people are focused in on their health, but more specifically about their weight. That's what [00:01:00] people do this time of year, they talk about their weight, they wanna lose a certain amount of pounds.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Sure, it's part of their New Year's resolution, right? I mean, most people say, "Okay, soon as the holidays are done, I'm getting at her." The gyms are always full in January and empty in February.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And it's funny because a lot of times, what ends up happening is that, let's just say I'm starting January second because, you know, who starts January first? There's nothing open and all that kind of stuff so I'm starting January second, so what they do [00:01:30] is that every day that gets closer to that day, they just eat a little bit more and they're like, "I'm gonna be good in a couple days so I'm gonna eat that." And the next thing you know, they're eating a lot of everything and almost ramping up and they to cut it all out on January second, which is very difficult to do, especially sugar. It's still the holidays. There's so many cookies and all these pastries and all this sugar. I'll tell you, there are a lot of people at the beginning of January that are going through the addiction [00:02:00] detox procedure, where they get all the headaches and the agitation and the shortness of mood. So it's interesting.
But this is the time of year that people talk about weight loss. Now, the reason why we're bringing this study up is, we're gonna talk about the benefits of intermittent fasting even if you don't wanna lose weight. Now, here's the thing. A lot of people have heard about intermittent fasting. It's gaining popularity over the last couple years. More [00:02:30] and more people are doing it and they're doing it for weight loss. And what happens is some people do it and they lose weight, other people do it and they don't lose any weight. And we'll talk about why that is in a second. But they don't lose any weight so they stop doing it. What we wanna do is we wanna talk about the benefits of intermittent fasting even if you're not losing weight.
Meaning, as a lifestyle factor, right? Doing it for a healthier lifestyle because, and we'll talk about [00:03:00] why in a second. But I'm gonna give you a statement and whether or not you agree with the statement, it's something that we talk about here and there but I just wanna say it and then we can discuss whether or not you agree with the statement. So, the amount of food that you eat determines whether or not you lose weight. However, the types of food that you eat determines how you feel and how you look.
Now, that's not 100% stable because if somebody has why bad hormones, and their metabolism is [00:03:30] just absolutely destroyed, their body will protect itself, they can cut down food, but I'm saying in general, somebody that has a relatively healthy metabolism, would you agree with that statement?
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, I would. Yeah, generally, that's true. And if you look at our diet, what we've done at the Martin Clinic and in food, we talk about the difference in not quantity as much as quality of food. So we always talk about, we're hormone people so we talk about that hormone insulin, and [00:04:00] so we divide food based on-
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, we're dealing with people, we're dealing with people that generally have a very difficult time losing weight because their hormones are a mess.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Their thyroid is slowed down, all of those kind of things, but in general-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, that's a ... I agree with that in the general setting.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And the reason why that's important to understand is because what happens with some people who fast and I mean, listen, I've done fasting for a long time, intermittent fasting for a long time and I've been there, so I understand. It's so funny, right? If somebody says, "Well, I'm gonna [00:04:30] start eating at 12 and then I'm gonna stop eating at eight", so, you know, a 16-hour fast and an eight-hour eating window. Well, I'll tell you, when you first start to fast, you try to shove as much food as possible into eight hours, right? So you're still eating the same amount of food. You're not eating less. So you may lose some weight at first, but then it's gonna stabilize pretty quickly because you're still eating the same amount of foods in that shortened window.
And then one of the downsides that people have when it comes to intermittent fasting [00:05:00] is they fall into a habit of binge eating. There was a graphic that I saw that somebody had done for fasting and it was so funny. The top picture was a guy staring at his clock and it said 11:59, and there was a massive plate of food in front of them. And then the next shot was it said 12:01 and the food was all eaten, right? I mean, listen, like I said, I was speaking from experience because I've gone through a lot of fasting and I've tested out a lot of different things over the years and you could go through a period of fasting where you're losing weight. You could go through a period of fasting where you're not losing weight. [00:05:30] But it's a tremendous tool for what we'll talk about in a second.
So you have to kind of decide how you wanna use intermittent fasting, now in our program, we have a weight loss program that we use in the clinic and that we have available online, it's the serial killer program. And we use intermittent fasting as a tool, but then it's also the types of food that you eat in that window that make the difference, right? And the reason why the second part of the statement is the type of food determines how you feel, because everybody will bring up a study [00:06:00] or that guy who ate Twinkies or Krispy Kreme and lost weight. Because he ate a lot less food. But all he was eating was Krispy Kreme. Now, he lost weight, he lost muscle because he got no protein and fantastic, but I guarantee he didn't feel good. I guarantee you, I guarantee you that if he continues that for a while, maybe his blood numbers were okay at first, but you can't do that, I mean, that's a publicity stunt, he's trying to prove a point that it's all calories, but it's not all calories.
So when I'm saying it's the amount [00:06:30] of food, we're not talking the calories equal in that sense. To say that a calorie doesn't matter would be ignorant. It would be ignorant. And we don't say that. Be that types of calories matter. Big time. Some calories hold you over a lot better so you get to consume a lot less in a day time. But that's not what we're saying. So the types of food now, help you preserve muscle, they help you not lose muscle because a lot of ... the problem with a lot of these programs at first, for weight loss-
Dr. Martin Sr.: It's [00:07:00] starvation.
Dr. Martin Jr.: ... they lose a lot of muscle. So their shape kinda stayed the same, in a sense, right? Their shape didn't change, they lost muscle, that's not the point, you don't want to lose muscle. Your muscle is your metabolism, your muscle is how well you finish off your life on the backend. The more muscle you have going into aging, the better things are on the backend.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Absolutely.
Dr. Martin Jr.: We've talked about that on a episode before, you can go back and listen as we talked about the importance of muscle. So that's [00:07:30] what we're getting at here. So you can like at fasting as a way to eat less food. However, if you eat the wrong foods, you're not gonna feel good and it's not gonna work out for you. But there's a study that was done and so let's talk about that. This study was done on intermittent fasting and again, if you're listening and are not sure what that means, it's very simple. The idea of fasting is to shorten your eating window, meaning, the amount of hours in a day that you're eating food.
So, for example, [00:08:00] if the average person and studies have shown this because a lot of people are tracking their eating habits. There's a lot of data now, I saw an interesting study put out, I don't know if it was by [Garmin 00:08:12] or Fitbit. Might have been ... I can't remember, on people's heart rates. Fascinating stuff because they're tracking, we're walking medical experiments now. We're tracking our steps, we're tracking our heart rates, we're tracking everything. Right? Everything is being tracked.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Blood sugar.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Everything is being tracked and we're getting all [00:08:30] this data that's out there now, right? So we know, MyFitnessPal, a lot of people use that, there's a lot of data available. And what they found is that a lot of people are eating for 13 plus hours in a day, so if there's 24 hours in a day, they're eating for more hours than they're not eating. Which is not a balanced ... you know, people talk about a balanced diet, that's not balanced.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Right? Plus, there's been some misconceptions about eating six times a day. [00:09:00] I mean, listen, you can eat six times a day if you have no metabolic issues, but if you have a metabolic issue, pre-diabetes, slow metabolism and you're eating six times a day, that's not good.
Dr. Martin Sr.: No.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It's not gonna help you. And we talk about, again, why that is in that program. But the bottom line is this. Shortening your eating window is the concept of intermittent fasting. And there are different ways of doing that, right? There's different ways of fasting. Like I mentioned earlier, some people will skip breakfast, will start eating at 12, they'll stop eating around 7, 8 o'clock at night, so they got [00:09:30] about a seven, eight hour eating window and then they're fasting for 16 hours. And that's the idea. So as a rule of thumb, when you shorten your eating window down a bit, people feel better. Right? And that good very-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, for different people, right?
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. I think the average person should look at the amount of hours they eat in a day. If they get up and they're eating breakfast by eight in the morning and then they're having a snack at 9 o'clock, that's a 13-hour eating window, and they do that repeatedly for a long time, it's not good metabolically and they probably will be [00:10:00] gaining weight as a result of it. Plus, it's not good digestive-wise, think about all the digestive issues they we have. And it's not good digestion as well, you never get into that rest or digest stage enough. You're just not getting enough digestion going on. So there's a lot of problems associated with a longer eating window.
So we always tell somebody to shorten their eating window while intermittent fasting takes that a little bit to a different level where they really shorten it down and they're fasting part of the time, they're eating part of the time, which is the term intermittent fasting. Now, some [00:10:30] people will fast every other day, right? They'll fast, they'll do a 24-hour fast once or twice a week. But you can still do that and eat food every day because if you eat supper at 6 o'clock at night and then you eat supper the next day at 6 o'clock at night, well that was a 24-hour fast but yet you get to eat food every day. Right?
So there's a lot of benefit to fasting and we've talked about that before but what this study here shows, so this study here was done and they didn't lose any weight. The purpose of the study was not to lose weight. It was done [00:11:00] in men with pre-diabetes. So why don't you talk a little bit about what pre-diabetes is?
Dr. Martin Sr.: Okay. And that is where your cells are resisting the food hormone insulin, right? So every time you eat, you need insulin. Because insulin's got a job to do. So your pancreas secretes insulin. Its primary job is to take sugar, glucose and get it out of your bloodstream and store. I mean, insulin is a storage hormone, right? So [00:11:30] somebody that's a pre-diabetic is someone that is having trouble with insulin. Their cells don't react to insulin as well as they used to and that cells are resisting insulin. They have a high amount of insulin always circulating in their blood. That is pre-diabetic.
Dr. Martin Jr.: They're diabetic already, they just haven't been diagnosed as diabetes because the blood tests are just outside of that normal range, so they got high elevated blood sugars, a little outside the normal range, they got high insulin, but not enough [00:12:00] to be diagnosed as diabetic. However-
Dr. Martin Sr.: They should treat themselves like they are.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yes. Because studies show a pre-diabetic gets all the same things that a diabetic does.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Just at a slower rate. Right? Pre-diabetes in your forties and fifties will give you dementia and Alzheimer's when you're older.
Dr. Martin Sr.: And you know, I always love what you say. And people should really hear this in repetition because if they get it, it really can help them a lot. The body has an enormous capacity to store fat. [00:12:30] Almost everybody, but not some skinny people, they can't store fat.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Sr.: But the body has an enormous ability to keep you away from diabetes. So if you get diabetes, you're bad, man. Because the body has that ability to take sugar out of the bloodstream and store it and store it and store it and store it. And diabetes won't come until the very end. But you're in trouble metabolically way before that.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, you're already in trouble metabolically. Yeah, [00:13:00] absolutely.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: So what they did in this study I'd they did a form of intermittent fasting, we talk about which type in a second, and they did it in men who were pre-diabetic. So metabolically-
Dr. Martin Sr.: They were messed up.
Dr. Martin Jr.: ... they were messed up. They were diabetic metabolically, they just weren't officially diagnosed with diabetes and a majority of men and women over the age of 40 would classify as pre-diabetic nowadays. Right? A majority of people would be in that pre-diabetic range already. [00:13:30] So we're talking to almost everybody ob the age of 40 right now. So they did this intermittent fasting and they did a form which is fascinating and we've talked about this before and it's what they call early time-restricted feeding. So it's a form of intermittent fasting but it's specifically early time-restricted feeding. And they did it for a reason and we'll talk about that as well, why this may work for some people very well.
So early time-restricted feeding is very simple. They would eat for six [00:14:00] hours in the day and generally around eight in the morning, nine in the morning, until two in the afternoon or three. So their supper was at three in the afternoon. Then they'd fast until breakfast again. And the reason why they did it this way is for two reasons. Diabetics tend to have higher glucose in the morning. And the reason for that has to do with your circadian rhythm. Right? Your hormones are released based on that 24-hour cycle. So one of the hormones that's supposed to [00:14:30] be elevated early in the morning, as you're waking up is cortisol.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Cortisol, yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And cortisol, one of the main jobs of cortisol is to raise your blood sugar levels up so that you can have energy to start your day. The problem is a diabetic, they already have high blood sugar, or pre-diabetes, and cortisol raises it even more. So they have higher glucose levels in the morning. However, this study wanted to match circadian rhythm. They feel that people generally eat with the sunrise, right? And stop [00:15:00] eating before sunset.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: I mean, listen, it's a fantastic way to do it if you can. The downside of that has to do with our culture because we generally eat supper as a family, breakfast his chaotic. And we eat supper as a family, right? The family meal in North America is supper. We get together as a family at supper. It's tough to do that if you're stopping eating around 3 o'clock.
However, for these pre-diabetes, that's what they did. And when they found a whole bunch of awesome things when it came to their actual metabolic health. They didn't lose [00:15:30] weight. Because again, I didn't look at the actual structure of how many calories and what they were eating and the types of food they were eating but it was interesting, right? So they ate roughly, in this study, they ate from 8:00 a.m. or 9:00 and they stopped eating around two or three in the afternoon for that six-hour eating window and they felt fantastic. So here we go.
Now, here's what they found in the study. So they found some big indicators here in terms of helping pre-diabetes. The first thing is, the participants [00:16:00] after the study, for five weeks, their insulin sensitivity increased.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Which is good.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Which is very good. Right? You don't wanna be insulin resistant, you wanna be insulin sensitive. Now, the difference between the two is very simple. When your cells are resistant to insulin, the body only reacts one way. It makes more. That's all it does.
Dr. Martin Sr.: It has to.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. It's like a parent yelling at their kids. It's like they're talking to their kids and the kid isn't listening [00:16:30] so what does a parent do? They raise their voice. They just talk louder. And if the kid's not listening because he's not smart enough to catch on, the parents raise their voice even more. Right? So that's basically what happens with the cells also. Your cells are not listening to insulin, so your pancreas is, "Oh yeah? You're gonna listen. I'm gonna send more insulin." Right? And that's what happens.
So when you're insulin resistant, you have more insulin circulating. The flip side of that is, I always picture insulin sensitivity [00:17:00] as whispering in a library. Just quiet, you don't need a lot of conversation, so it's just, your cells are so sensitive to insulin that your pancreas doesn't need to make much.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: So you'll get the same job done and the reason why that's important is because insulin, which is so important for your health, when you have too much of it, causes a ton of inflammation, a ton of fat storage. It makes things grow that shouldn't be growing.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Right?
Dr. Martin Sr.: [00:17:30] It's a real fuel for bad cells and ... you name it.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It's a powerful growth hormone. Right? And it makes your fat cells grow, if you're a guy it makes your prostate grow, if you've got cancer it could make cancer, makes your liver grow.
Dr. Martin Sr.: It makes your liver grow. The suitcase gets real stuffed when you're making lots of insulin.
Dr. Martin Jr.: So the men in this study who were pre-diabetic, who fasted this method had an increased insulin sensitivity. Now, [00:18:00] a lot of fasting is showing the same thing so it's now just restricted to this type of fasting because a lot of other types of fasting is showing the exact same thing. In fact, if you're pre-diabetic, shortening your eating window is a great way to increase insulin sensitivity. So is weight lifting. So is high intensity interval training. Right? Those are awesome ways of increasing insulin sensitivity. So that was the first thing.
Now another big problem, if you have high blood pressure, you are pre-diabetic, guaranteed. That means [00:18:30] you're pre-diabetic. This type of fasting reduces blood pressure. Again, because blood pressure is a symptom of too much insulin. So they became more insulin sensitive, they had less circulating insulin and as a result their blood pressure improved.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Incredible.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And they didn't lose any weight. So they could have been frustrated.
Dr. Martin Sr.: And I see that a lot, eh. People are frustrated because their only monitor is the scale.
Dr. Martin Jr.: That's right. Yeah.
Dr. Martin Sr.: That's ... "Hey, [00:19:00] I'm not losing any weight."
Dr. Martin Jr.: Think about it. If we were to list, you and I did this not long ago, we did a small podcast a while ago on some blood tests that we think are important but you and I put together a sheet of blood tests that would give you a full evaluation from your brain to your gut to your skin, everything. There are a lot of metabolic markers. A ton of metabolic markers. And people will just look at the scale as the trump-all.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yes.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Right? That's the most important [00:19:30] number. They can feel good, their metabolic health can be healthy but they're like, "I wanna lose 10 pounds." Right? Or whatever. But you're right. So these people in the study, they didn't lose any weight but already, their insulin sensitivity improved and their blood pressure went down. And that's important because we talked about this as well, blood pressure in mid-life, high correlation of stroke at the end of your life, Alzheimer's and dementia. Blood pressure is a [00:20:00] warning sign, is a check engine light, people will think of heart, yes, but it's also a check engine light for your brain. You've got high blood pressure now? Your brain's in trouble later. That's a fact. So that's why this is important. That's why this kind of information is important.
The third thing it does, so we talked about how it makes you more insulin sensitive, it lowers your blood pressure, the third thing is it decreases oxidative stress.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Wow. So the free radicals went down, right? And again, [00:20:30] you just talked about how high circulating insulin is a real factor in aging, right? So if you look at oxidative, what they call glycation end products-
Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, you give an analogy of what oxidative stress is with an apple.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And I think that's brilliant.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. Well, you cut an apple in half. Just ... it don't take long. Literally within a couple of minutes, that apple's starting to turn brown.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And that's oxygen.
Dr. Martin Sr.: It's [00:21:00] oxygen.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It's oxidative stress, it's rusting out the apple. Right?
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. Quickly.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And that ages us, oxygen gives us life but it also ages us. It ages our brain. It causes free radical damage. So it causes a lot of problems.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. It rusts you out, right?
Dr. Martin Jr.: One of the keys of anti-aging is decreasing oxidative stress. Intermittent fasting, which is why people always talk about the anti-aging benefits of intermittent fasting. And other studies showed it decreased oxidative stress in these pre-diabetic men. And pre- [00:21:30] diabetic men are full of oxidative stress. Oxidative stress is another way to get inflammation. So that's why they're loaded with inflammation, because they got high insulin, that creates inflammation, they got high cortisol, that creates inflammation, they got high oxidative stress, that creates inflammation and then that kills our heart or it kills their brain or it kills their gut, it kills anything.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Makes cancer cells.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. Pre-diabetes and I don't like the word pre-diabetes and the reason why, any pre [00:22:00] anything, but even then, it should be called pre-disease. Because it doesn't have to go to diabetes, it can shoot to the brain, it can shoot to wherever. Cardiac, they call it pre-diabetes because they're gonna get diabetes but then they're also gonna get something else. But anyways. So those are the three things.
Dr. Martin Sr.: The benefits.
Dr. Martin Jr.: We're not losing weight. And those three things are so important for your metabolic health. So important for our heart, brain, everything we just talked about, right? Again, the reason why they did it this way [00:22:30] is they wanted to align it with the circadian rhythm. Eat at sunrise or eat in the morning. As the day goes on, you stop eating. Right? You and I talked about this, how it would be difficult to do for a lot of people but you know that if you did it, you'd feel better.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: We both said the same thing. Like anything else, you have to get used to it, right? Everybody says they can't fast, there's no way I can wait to eat until 12 or one. Until they do it a few times and then they're like, "Yeah, it wasn't that bad." Right?
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. And again, if you're only looking at the scale, [00:23:00] intermittent fasting, shortening your window, it can be a real important factor in even weight loss. But if you turn the ship around and look at it the other way and say, "Well, look, I wanna be healthy." Because our goal at the Martin Clinic is obviously, we understand you wanna lose weight and I mean, who doesn't? Right? I mean, that's a big thing today, I was telling you about a study that came out that since the 1960s, there's 30% more obesity.
Dr. Martin Jr.: [00:23:30] Well, I think you said that the average men is 30 pounds heavier. It was an article-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. And the average woman is 31 pounds heavier than in the 1960s so who doesn't wanna lose weight? Of course it's a big thing today. It's bigger than it ever was. It always was big, but now it's even bigger. I understand that because people, what you see is ... but our goal at the Martin Clinic, it's bigger than that.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Because we want you to be metabolically sound, we want to get your insulin down, [00:24:00] we wanna get your inflammation down, we want to-
Dr. Martin Jr.: We want to help people live longer but healthier because as I talked about in that solo podcast, but by the way, it's not easy to do. When you go away and I run on my own.
Dr. Martin Sr.: You missed me, eh?
Dr. Martin Jr.: Oh yeah, then I miss you. It's not easy to do. But here's the thing. We want people to live longer but like I talked about the statistic that 50% of people over the age of 85 have Alzheimer's. So people say, "I [00:24:30] wanna live to 85 or 90." Well, then you're flipping a coin whether or not you have Alzheimer's and who wants to live with Alzheimer's? Who wants to live with that? And you don't get Alzheimer's ... and here's the thing. Because I was thinking about this a little bit in the week as I wanna writing, doing some articles. It's not what you do in your seventies and eighties that gives you Alzheimer's, it's what you do in your forties, fifties and sixties.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Mid-life. I'm telling you the more I read studies and the more I look at things, it's your stupid mid-life. [00:25:00] What you do in your mid-life, it's not even what you do in your twenties and thirties because you can come back from that stuff.
Dr. Martin Sr.: You can regenerate. You can-
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. When you're young, in a sense, right? Like your cells, everything is turning over and it's just you're metabolically healthy. It's when you become unhealthy metabolically, it's what you do in your forties and fifties and sixties that really sets the stage. Now I'm not saying if you're in your seventies you can't do damage. And you can always do stuff to help.
Dr. Martin Sr.: You gotta undo a lot [00:25:30] of stuff, still.
Dr. Martin Jr.: But if you're in your forties, fifties and sixties and you're listening to this, now is the time. You got high blood pressure? Fix that. There's a lot of studies that show that it does a lot of different things. It's not just a little mild ... it's a check engine light. That's a massive check engine light.
Now, your check engine light, you can put a little piece of black electrical tape over it and hide it and act like it's not there.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Well, that would be blood pressure medication, right?
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, just like "Here, take this." Instead of "Well, what's the root cause? What's causing that?" [00:26:00] Right? Stress causes high blood pressure, yes, but stress causes elevated cortisol. Cortisol raises your blood pressure but also brings your blood sugars up and also causes a raised ... your insulin levels will go up, which causes inflammation, which strains your brain, which leads to Alzheimer's. You could see it's all connected. It's all pieces of a puzzle, right? So that's why we talk a lot to people, forties, fifties and sixties, and then when they're in their seventies and eighties and they want to double down on a lot of stuff to protect your brain.
But we talk to that [00:26:30] age a lot because we want them to understand that they're at the stage now that will really affect their retirement. It really affects their backend of their life. Do they wanna be that 50% at 85 that have Alzheimer's? Or do they want to be the 50% that are 85 and like I see at the gym in the morning, they're 85, they're jumping off the benches and lifting weights and sound everything. Sound mind, sound everything. That's health.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: That's the important stuff. Right? When it comes to health, it's aging well. We don't talk a lot about weight, [00:27:00] in a sense, because weight's a symptom of an underlying metabolic or hormonal issue that we would rather fix because you fix that, then the weight will take care of itself. We're more concerned about the metabolic health of somebody.
Now we've gone over and we're way past our time that we like to give ourself for these episodes. So again, if you have any questions, email us, there's a lot of ways to get a hold of us. But we wanna thank you for listening and have a great day.
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