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Dr. Martin: Well, good morning everyone. This morning, we're going to talk about everything depression. Okay? We're going to talk about depression this morning and I'll tell you why. [00:00:30] Okay? Here's the study that came out last week. One-third of Americans, so this is an American study. One-third of Americans are showing signs of clinical depression or anxiety. One-third of America. This is brand new guys. Okay?
Before COVID, there was over I think 25-30 million people that were on, in the United States alone, on antidepressants. And you know me, I've been saying it from day one [00:01:00] that the cure for the virus is going to be worse than the disease. The cure, and you know, to some extent then, you know, what do I know? All I'm saying is I think there's a lot of built up frustration. You know, you saw it in the United States and Canada, Toronto, and other places, Montreal, there was looting here in Montreal last night, I heard, and people are frustrated.
[00:01:30] We're meant to have fellowship with each other and we've been sort of locked down. I think people got very frustrated and it was sort of a powder keg and boom! You know? People got out and now nobody's talking about COVID, they're all talking about rioting. Terrible thing, you know? It really is for many, many reasons. But let me talk about depression because they're saying, okay, this study is saying now one-third, one-third of the population in [00:02:00] the US is suffering from symptoms of clinical depression and/or anxiety. That's incredible when you think about it, very incredible.
I want to talk about that this morning, because it's a big thing that of course over the years that I've treated, and I want to look at it maybe a little bit differently this morning. I want to talk about clinical findings and then what we can do [00:02:30] about it. You know, because the problem with depression is if you get into clinical depression, not easy to come out of it. Because some of the things that you need to do that you're deficient in, once you're into a depression you don't feel like doing almost anything. That's what depression is and it's not easy. Okay?
But let me just tell you, I want to give you a little bit of ... I've been doing a lot of work on depression and anxiety over [00:03:00] the years. I mean, I think I've told my staff many a time. You know, my practice has really changed clinically. We saw, you know, we always talk about this. We talk about the difference in foods. You know, the world has changed. They changed our breakfast, you know, the food industry, they changed art flour, they changed our sugar. I think this is a big, big issue, especially changing the sugar to high fructose corn syrup. I'm going to talk a little bit about that this [00:03:30] week cause there's another study with young people.
Everything has changed in our society. And one of the biggest changes is in this area, like in my practice, I saw huge, huge, huge increase in anxiety. Here's just a little bit, and I always tell people this. I took enough psychology in university to be dangerous. This is what I tell people. Like, I'm not a psychologist, okay? [00:04:00] I have a brother who is a Clinical Psychologist. I'm not a Psychologist, but I got 46 years of practice and I just give you some of my things that are hidden. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this, this morning, but just maybe to, when you see somebody that's depressed or suffers from depression, here's what I see clinically but even emotionally, okay? Just want to talk about emotions for a minute [00:04:30] and then we'll get into what I have seen over the years clinically and then what we ought to do about it, first of all, to prevent depression. Okay? As much as we can prevent it.
The Bible has a lot to say about it because it talks about anxiety leads to depression. If anxiety is left unchecked, it could lead to literal clinical depression. But let me just, I'm going [00:05:00] to tell you three things that I found over the years in people that suffer with depression. There's three things I found emotionally, psychologically. It's in the background of most people over the years. Like I said, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on that. I just want to put it out there so you can think about it. Okay?
Now, one of them is unresolved anger. Unresolved [00:05:30] anger. That's looking in the rear view mirror of your life and staying there. Unresolved anger, you know? Maybe you were abused or maybe you had a relationship that went sour and you got unresolved anger in your life. This is just generally what I found because I'm the type of guy in practice, when I was in practice, [00:06:00] I learned something from my dad. My dad asked questions. He used to tell me, patients have inside information. Ask questions. Okay. You want to find out something? Ask questions.
I used to go into people's history and ask them questions cause it gave me a lot of information. One of them, just generally, I found unresolved anger. Unresolved anger. The second [00:06:30] one generally was fear. Fear. Uncertainty in people's lives. They have fear. To me, this is one of the biggest issues in today's world where they're saying one-third of Americans are showing signs of clinical depression. I tell you the reason, and this is why I always spoke to you about COVID is that we got to ... You know when they said hammer down [00:07:00] the curve of the virus? You know what I was saying? Hammer down the fear, because people were scared to go outside. I'm not going outside, I'm going to get this virus. And they were more scared of the virus.
But I was telling people, look, be very careful about that. You know, I'm not saying don't take it seriously. All I'm saying is, man, it overwhelmed us. People have ... You know, fear, they get that cortisol running 24/7 [00:07:30] and this is a big issue. When it comes to anxiety, then depression. Fear. Cortisol is not meant to be running 24/7. You get fear and then you're not sleeping properly. The brain won't turn off. And this is a big thing. So people, one, they're looking in the rear view mirror of their lives and they're hurting. They got unresolved anger. They're angry all the time and they don't realize it. [00:08:00] Maybe people have never sat them down and said, "Look, you got to forgive. Okay? You got to give it over because it's killing you."
And then secondly, that fear. We're going to have a whole generation of people now with fear. Fear. You know, I blame the media to some extent because look, the media never had it so good. You know? They never had it so good. It's 24/7 of, you know, it was the [00:08:30] virus. Now it's going to be 24/7 of they stir people up. Now listen, I'm not telling you, I'm glad we have the media. I mean that. But guys, you got to put it into perspective. You know, like turn it off. Okay?
And then thirdly, guilt. Guilt. This is what I found. This is just generally me, okay? Guilt. People live in guilt, you know, and they can't get past that guilt. Failure in their life and whatever, they feel guilty. [00:09:00] Maybe my kids didn't turn out the way they should and I feel guilty about it. You know, I didn't do what I should have done or whatever. But again, these are things that psychologically are in the background of that. That's just my experience, okay? That's just my experience with people. I just wanted to throw that out there because this is often, I find, in the background [00:09:30] of people when it comes to problems with anxiety and clinical depression.
Let's now talk about what I used to find clinically. Okay. When I tested people, what did I find generally was missing or they had a lack of, or whatever in clinical depression. And there was very little [00:10:00] exceptions to this. Always exceptions, but there was very little exceptions to what I'm going to tell you. Clinically, what did I find with people that had anxiety, and more specifically, clinical depression? When they got to a point that they were clinically depressed. What did I find generally?
Here's the clinical findings [00:10:30] of people and I've wrote down a list. I've got seven of them. Eight of them. I'm just looking. Number one, not necessarily in the order of importance, they're all important. This is generally what I found. One, low levels of B12. Yep. I can't say that I ever remembered seeing a patient that was clinically depressed that didn't have [00:11:00] low levels of B12. Don't you think B12 is an important vitamin? It is. It's a very important vitamin and people generally in society today, for several reasons, are low in B12. One of the biggest reasons is people don't eat red meat anymore. They think it's bad for them. Red meat has become a boogeyman. People ask me, I don't think I go past a day where people don't ask me ... And guys [00:11:30] ask questions, okay? We're here to answer your questions, so don't be shy. And no question is stupid. Okay? Ask your questions.
Here's what we're doing at the Martin Clinic. I'm no longer in practice, but I'm not gone anywhere. Like I'm answering probably more questions than I ever have in my life. We're answering questions. We have our own private Facebook group and people come on and they ask questions and good for them. I got no problem, [00:12:00] ask your questions. And B12 is very low in people with clinical depression. It's just as simple as that. I have never seen, I can't think of a case, where I've saw that they had normal levels of B12. The blood test is 100 years old. Put it to bed. Blood serum levels of B12 are very, very, the numbers don't mean much and doctors don't look at B12 anymore.
I've talked to you [00:12:30] about that in the past. They just don't look at it anymore. They used to. There wasn't a family doctor in the 1950s or whatever that didn't give B12 shots all the time. Then it sort of lost its edge with the big pharmaceutical industry coming in and instead of trying to help people holistically, especially by the 1970s, they started with antidepressants, which is a bandaid [00:13:00] which was meant to be temporary. They used to have a warning. I don't even know if they have a warning on the box anymore. This wasn't to be used. It was supposed to just get you through a hard time, a difficult period in your life and then stop using them. But people have been using them for 30-40 years.
Anyway, I don't want to get into that as much as low levels of B12. They don't eat enough red meat. B12 is a very large vitamin, by the way. Structurally, [00:13:30] it's a very large vitamin. The problem with that is if you got any digestive issues, you usually are not absorbing B12. The fact that the young generation, especially, I tell you, this is a crisis, in my opinion. The young generation has bought hook line and sinker that they shouldn't eat red meat. It's got eyeballs. That's not good for me. [00:14:00] Then they go after this stupid, I hate to use the word stupid, but it's stupid meatless craze. Guys, my PhD is clinical nutrition. You can't get enough vitamins, especially B12, in the plant kingdom. It's not there. I don't know how to express that more passionately.
This is why [00:14:30] like, you know, God love, I love young people. Okay? Especially girls, okay? I get hundreds and hundreds a year into my office. I used to look them in the eyeballs and, "Can I talk you out of being a vegetarian or can I talk you out of being a vegan, please? Can I talk you out of it?" In a loving way I used to do it. If you came into my office, I loved you automatically. [00:15:00] I have a passion for people, but I can't stand being lied to, guys. And I know you go and there's all sorts of gurus out there and you go online and whatever. What I'm saying to you today, a lot of people would tell you that, that Dr. Martin, he's a quack. And they bought the lie of the plant kingdom. The plants are good, guys, but you need the animal kingdom. Big time. Your body, you just can't ... You need [00:15:30] that to have B12. You're not going to get ... B12 in the plants is enough for a mouse and you're not a mouse and your brain needs B12, guys. Okay? Your brain needs to B12.
Guess what? I'm not getting through all this stuff. I gave you a lecture on red meat and B12. They need it. Nevermind the hem/iron, you need. Hem/iron is found in red meat. It ain't in the plant [00:16:00] kingdom. I'm sorry. Okay? I'm sorry. It's just not there. Okay, secondly, you guys knew I was going to say this so why didn't you just say it before I did? Low levels of vitamin D. Low levels of vitamin D. It is 100% in people who suffer from clinical depression. They have low levels of vitamin D. And there's another one [00:16:30] that throughout North America, people are extremely low in B12. And Linda is saying, "What happened? Does it matter if you [inaudible 00:16:41]?" Good, you want high B12. It's a water soluble vitamin. What's that mean? It means you ain't overdosing on B12. I got too much B12. No B12 is good for you. I aim high. You need to optimized levels of [00:17:00] B12.
What if your B12 is high? It's a water soluble vitamin. You know what? It's amazing to me. It gets checked off as being high. What's that mean? Good. You want B12 to be high. You don't want it to be low. A lot of people, oh, my B12 is normal. I said, "Well, that's crap. You don't want your B12 to be normal. You want your B12 to be optimized. You want your brain to work." Low levels of B12, low levels [00:17:30] of vitamin D. The sun is so therapeutic. We're human solar system, every cell in your body needs vitamin D including your brain cells. You don't make enough melatonin without vitamin D. You don't make enough serotonin without vitamin D. You don't make enough dopamine without vitamin D. You don't make enough GABA without vitamin D. [00:18:00] Your feel good hormones.
When there's an imbalance, it's usually a nutritional deficiency. Vitamin D. And one of the reasons, we talked about this last week. One of the reasons that low levels of vitamin D is a bad diet. Generally, generally, and very few exceptions to this. People that are clinically depressed are bad eaters. [00:18:30] They're bad eaters. That's very important. You know, me. My name is Tony and I'm a carboholic. Put your hand up because the people that have depression, clinical depression, generally what I've found over the years they were bad eaters. They were carboholics. They loved their sugar. Remember, remember one of the biggest lies in the world that happened to our society is when the [00:19:00] food industry discovered high fructose corn syrup. It's sugar on steroids. It's made in a lab. It's not natural.
It's very inexpensive. It is highly toxic. And this is why we see, this is one of the reasons we see so much more depression. Not that there was never depression in the world. Of course there was. But clinically, this is what I find. [00:19:30] Okay? 10 things. Cause I just mentioned a bad diet. Well, that was on the top of my list, really. Okay? It's just that you know, I mean, I wanted to talk about low levels of testosterone. Not so much for you ladies, but for men. Low levels of testosterone are very, what are they saying, now? Something like 40-50% of men, [00:20:00] testosterone levels have gone down in the last 20 years by 40-50%. Men need testosterone and it's not just for muscles. It's not just you know, because men think of testosterone for their bedroom. But testosterone, men, is really important for your heart. Testosterone is really important, men, for your brain. You need testosterone.
And most men that had clinical [00:20:30] depression had low levels of testosterone. Ladies, guess what you had? Too much estrogen. Estrogen dominance compared to your progesterone, a hormonal thing, big time. These are things that I've found over the years. Hormonally out of balance. Yeah. Saw a lot of it. Okay? Of course we saw this, but I got to talk about it a bit, high cortisol levels. Again, [00:21:00] this that doesn't stop. The butterflies in the stomach. High cortisol causes a lack of sleep. It's one of the number one symptom, not only fatigue, you know, cotton like brain fog and unwellness. But one of the things it does cause is usually insomnia. Once you get into clinical depression, you can't even get out of bed. You're so knocked out. But until you get to there, usually [00:21:30] there's high levels of cortisol that, that uptight and this is where I was talking to you about unresolved anger and fear and guilt. Those are big factors to produce cortisol in your body. And cortisol is meant for the fight or flight. It's not meant to be produced all the time.
Okay, so high cortisol levels. Here's another one. Low magnesium. Low levels [00:22:00] of magnesium. Think of the word magnesium. When you think of magnesium, what does magnesium do? Well, look, you need magnesium for about 500 things. Okay? Magnesium is very important. But, here's what I found in the clinic. People were low in magnesium. When you think of magnesium, think of the word, relax. My kids will remember this when they were little. Daddy [00:22:30] had a line. I used this voice, by the way. The built in microphone in the voice. I used that to great effect when my kids were young. Because they knew when daddy's voice started going up, they were in doo-doo, like you're crossing the line. Don't cross it.
But I used to use the word like, when they were getting close to the line, [00:23:00] relax. And they knew daddy, okay. Daddy's getting serious. You're getting stupid so relax. But guys, magnesium helps your body to relax. Very important to get that cortisol down. One of the things, you know, and even in our cortisol formulas, magnesium, we use magnesium and I love magnesium. Somebody asked me on the weekend what's magnesium? [00:23:30] Well, here's what I found clinically. It's the best of all the best is citrate. Magnesium citrate, in my opinion, is the best. Why? Cause I've seen it work clinically. Now you can take an Epsom salt bath. You get magnesium salts. You can like magnesium. I love magnesium. But for me, the number one was citrate. It's the one that is most bioavailable. That's why I use it. I had to get results. Okay?
[00:24:00] I hope that answered your question. Here's another one. Leaky gut. Leaky gut, leaky brain. Remember you got more hormones in your gut than you have in your brain. You got more hormones in your gut. And leaky gut for some people, listen, let me explain this just for a sec. Leaky gut doesn't necessarily mean you have digestive issues. You might. But leaky gut doesn't mean you're [00:24:30] necessarily going to have symptoms in your gut. Remember what I talk about all the time? That war between good and bad bacteria. If your microbiome is off, and usually it will be off. And one of the biggest things, again, I'm just going to throw it out there. You guys can take it or leave it. I'm going to throw it out there because I've said this for so many years now, I'm not the only one that has said it, but one of the few that have said this.
One [00:25:00] of the biggest problems in our society today is antibiotics. It's the double-edged sword. Antibiotics kill the infection. Am I against them? No, no, so don't quote me wrong. If you need an antibiotic, because it can save your life. The problem is antibiotics destroy your microbiome, [00:25:30] that ecosystem inside of your gut. And that, for a lot of people, they take antibiotics as kids and years later they can get clinical depression. I've seen it, and I've often talked about the link of antibiotics to autism. In my opinion, either mommy taking the antibiotics, or baby in the first couple of years, [00:26:00] you know? They get an ear infection, whatever, they're on antibiotics.
Again, I'm not telling people not to take an antibiotic, but understand what it does. It affects the microbiome of your gut and that changes your hormones. That affects your dopamine. It affects your serotonin production. It affects your GABA and it even affects the absorption. [00:26:30] You need good bacteria to absorb nutrients. It can affect that. And you don't even absorb B12 properly. You're not absorbing magnesium properly. You're not absorbing vitamin D properly. These can be all factors in depression.
When I treated depression, I did it from a holistic [00:27:00] point of view. I did it holistically. I was looking at deficiencies and fixing those deficiencies. And the number one thing I would start off with was the diet, change your diet, and therapeutic doses of probiotics, vitamin D, B12, magnesium, therapeutic doses of those. Okay?
Guys, [00:27:30] thanks for watching this morning. We might do a little bit more on depression, cause I didn't even talk to you about inflammation and a few other things I'm going to talk about. But don't be shy. Give us your feedback and questions that you have. If you get a chance to please share this with others and remember your circle of influence, okay? You have a lot more influence than you think you do. Okay? So remember that. Love you guys. [00:28:00] Talk to you soon.
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