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Brandi: Deb would like to know if it's okay to take all of the supplements together or if we should take separate ones at different times?
Dr.Martin Jr: That's a good question. If you saw me take [00:00:30] supplements, take our supplements, for most of them, I take them all at the same time and handfuls of them. My wife and daughter are amazed how many I can swallow at one time, but yeah, so it really depends on, again ... Some like a digestive enzyme, for example, should be taken a few minutes before a meal. Some people don't do well taking, for example, DHA without food in their stomach. So sometimes you might have to separate [00:01:00] them or spread them out, but for the most part, yeah, most of them could be taken at the same time. Probiotics as well, I know, Dad, you like people to take them, like you say, down the hatch first thing in the morning. I've heard you say that a few times, but yeah, I wouldn't worry about that. I don't know if you have anything different to say than that?
Dr.Martin Sr: No, I mean it's whatever you're used to. I mean some like your Vitamin D, [00:01:30] for example, is a fat-soluble vitamin. Look, it's not the end of the world if you take it on an empty stomach, but I like peanut butter because it gives me an excuse, first of all, to eat peanut butter. Second of all, it's fat, mostly fat so it absorbs my Vitamin D even better, but I do it by convenience because I found myself having supplements in my pocket with a great intention of taking [00:02:00] them at lunchtime or whatever. Guess what? The next day, they're in my pocket again just because I forget. So for me, I take all of my supplements at once.
Dr.Martin Sr: Now, I know thousands of people, patients over the years that were taking, for example, magnesium or some cortisol to help them sleep at night. So they put that supplement right beside their bed or whatever and they have it [00:02:30] at that time. Hey, whatever. Magnesium, again, I like taking ... I often do take it at night just before bed if I feel like I'm overtired or whatever or got a muscle spasms or stuff like that. That helps. For people with cortisol at night, keep some. You might divide the pills. A lot of patients take it because they're used to taking pills. Take it at different [00:03:00] times. You can take your supplements at the same time.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, so as a rule of thumb, no, for the most part, it doesn't matter. All right, [Brandi 00:03:09], what's up next?
Brandi: How do you treat severe anemia?
Dr.Martin Jr: Well, first things first is anemia is a symptom of something. It's not a diagnosis, right? When you hear somebody say, "I got anemia," anemia is an effect. You always have to know what the cause of anemia is. There are a few [00:03:30] bigger causes of anemia, anything from not getting enough iron in their diet, poor digestion. Especially if they got any kind of digestive disorder at all, they're just not going to be able to metabolize iron properly. There are a lot of reasons for that. So if somebody has severe anemia, you definitely want to be taking an iron supplement. We have a liquid one that we like that's easy to absorb. We call it Blood Boost because we used to tell people [00:04:00] your blood needs a boost. It was a very lazy naming system that we used for that one.
Dr.Martin Jr: So something you can get into your system that can bypass a little bit of the digestive issues. Go from there, but then you got to figure out what's causing that severe anemia. Is there an ulcer? Is there bleeding? Is it digestion? Is it ... So there's different reasons for that, but definitely start taking an iron for sure. Take digestive enzymes [00:04:30] because as a rule of thumb, there's always a digestive issue going on as well. I would take probiotics also. Anything else you want to add, Dad?
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, well one of the things, and I mentioned this this morning because we were talking about B12, one of the things that B12 does, they always think of B12 as of course it helps with oxygen and B12 helps with the production of red blood cells. So with anemia, that's often the case, right? A lot of times with anemia, [00:05:00] doctors sort of get hooked on ferritin, and I understand that. They want to check your iron levels. Even Tony, you were mentioning Blood Boost, but Blood Boost, the reason, yeah, we were lazy maybe when we called it that, but it's got so many ... Blood has a lot of co-factors. There's a lot of things going into making blood. Your spleen and bone marrow make blood, but you need B12 [00:05:30] to be optimized. You want your heme iron, right?
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: Which is really important. But there's a lot of reasons, like you say, you've got to get to the bottom of why anemia. Then just another thing that I was saying this morning, just to repeat is that a lot of people don't know they're anemic because their blood work, maybe it's a little bit borderline, but I tell people, "Look at [00:06:00] your skin." I mean people would come into the office and I even see little kids pale as ... They look like Casper the ghost.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, they look like vampires.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, and I go, "It's not makeup you need."
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: "It's iron and B12. Right? You got to get your blood up."
Dr.Martin Jr: Now-
Dr.Martin Sr: A lot of people didn't realize that they were low in blood and the only symptom they had, very pale and usually fatigue, short of breath or fatigued or you hear a swishing [00:06:30] sound like your blood's trying to try and make up for its lack of oxygen.
Dr.Martin Jr: Now let me ask you a question, Dad, quickly because we get a lot about this as well. People will talk about bariatric surgery and there's a lot of anemia after that as well. Right?
Dr.Martin Sr: Yes, for sure.
Dr.Martin Jr: So if somebody has a bariatric surgery, they're definitely going to probably for the rest of their life need a B12, will need to make sure they're getting enough iron, and they're definitely going to need digestive [00:07:00] enzymes. They're generally have an issue with hydrochloric acid, not enough as well so they'll be way more prone for things like candida and all those things. Right? So if somebody is anemic because of a bariatric surgery, then you're going to have to supplement absolutely.
Dr.Martin Sr: The Blood Boost is the best because Blood Boost has everything in it and it's in a liquid chelated form. If you look at all those vitamins and minerals that are in there, they're all chelated. They're already broken [00:07:30] down. Especially someone with bariatric surgery, they have at the best of times, they have trouble absorbing anything. So this is just rapid absorption, and I would have them on our sublingual B12 100% for sure.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right, Brandi. What's up next?
Brandi: Rosa would like to know if you can discuss quickly sleep apnea.
Dr.Martin Jr: So again, sleep apnea, [00:08:00] I feel, is often labeled as a cause when it's really an effect. Sleep apnea usually for probably the 80-20 rule has to do with an insulin resistance problem in people. So if you look at sleep apnea, a lot of people get rid of sleep apnea machines when they fix their insulin resistance and when they fix their metabolic health. Again, I don't know how many people [00:08:30] we've had come through Martin Clinic, been involved with us online that have completely gone off sleep apnea machines and corrected that issue because they were insulin resistant. In fact, I'm confident enough to say that probably 99%-plus people with sleep apnea is because they've got insulin resistance.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Jr: That's where I would definitely absolutely 100% start, fixing insulin.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, there was a [00:09:00] study came out. I think we did a live. This was several months ago, but I talked about the study ... It was kind of funny. They said when you have sleep apnea, you have a very fat tongue.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, that was interesting. I saw that.
Dr.Martin Sr: It was interesting, right? Then they were saying that's why you need a machine, to get the oxygen. They put the oxygen up to your brain, your tongue when your [00:09:30] sleeping. Isn't that interesting that once you lower your insulin, your tongue shrinks? I thought it was if you stopped talking, but no, it's if you really watch your insulin, it helps to shrink your tongue. This is what they've shown. This is not my studies, but like Junior was saying, we have seen [00:10:00] multitudes of people where their sleep apnea is gone when they lower their carbohydrates and thus lowering their insulin.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: So insulin is a huge, huge factor there.
Dr.Martin Jr: Now, what other nutrients, Dad, would you talk about for sleep apnea?
Dr.Martin Sr: Well B12.
Dr.Martin Jr: B12 for sure.
Dr.Martin Sr: B12. They're always low on B12.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: Remember, oxygen [00:10:30] to the brain is B12, right?
Dr.Martin Jr: And then-
Dr.Martin Sr: Vitamin D.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: Vitamin D. That's for everything.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: But Vitamin D, those are things that ... Magnesium sometimes. They're deficient in magnesium. Yeah, those are the ones that I see. I love Navitol because the pine bark crosses the blood-brain barrier, it's an oxygenator, it elevates your nitric oxide. Nitric oxide just [00:11:00] sort of opens your blood vessels. So those are the things that, in terms of supplements ... And then if you lower your inflammation of course, our [Kirkman 00:11:13], we love that.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, DHA's good for that as well.
Dr.Martin Sr: [crosstalk 00:11:16] oil, all of those things lower inflammation and insulin elevates your inflammation of your tongue too.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah. Yeah. There are other causes of sleep apnea. For some people, a real bad gut [00:11:30] can cause it because if you get an overload of stuff like candida or you get real sinus issues ... So there are other causes as well, but for most people that we come into contact with, it's definitely an insulin problem. All right, Brandi. What's up next?
Brandi: Sheila would like to know if there are any benefits to apple cider vinegar.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, I think ... Well I mean vinegar is very good for you first of all. I mean there's no question that vinegar is very, very good for you, and apple cider vinegar is [00:12:00] also very good for you, but like anything else that first comes out, I mean people have been using vinegar for a long time. You look at history. It's been used to treat a lot of stuff. Apple cider vinegar can be good for heartburn. It can be very good for a lot of things. The problem is when stuff first comes out, it gets this almost superhero halo effect around it where people are using it for absolutely everything and their aunt's uncle's brother's sister's nephew cured this from something. Apple cider [00:12:30] vinegar kind of went through that where, for a while, there was nothing that apple cider vinegar couldn't fix or do which obviously that's not the case.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, apple cider vinegar is very good. It's great for digestion. It's great for heartburn. Again, vinegar is so good for you, right? So we like apple cider vinegar. Well nobody likes taking apple cider vinegar so when we say we like it, we don't like the taste of it because it's terrible. It's brutal. I mean you could do it every day for 100 days and it's still bad. It's terrible, but-
Dr.Martin Sr: I like balsamic.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, so I mean vinegar is a [00:13:00] good ... Apple cider, like I said, at the end of the day, it is very good for you. You got to cut away some of the hype around it, but it's definitely effective. Yeah. All right, Brandi. What's up next?
Brandi: Grace would like to know if our Navitol is good for rheumatoid arthritis.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, definitely. It is for a few reasons. One is that pine bark controls the master switch for inflammation so it's very, very good at reducing inflammation. Pine bark also helps make your immune system better identify [00:13:30] its own tissue so it helps with autoimmune issues that way, but yeah, it promotes blood flow to the joints, improves nitric oxide which again promotes blood flow to the joints. Yeah, very good. In fact, there are a lot of people who take Navitol or pine bark for joint pain, even rheumatoid arthritis. Dad, you speak to this. You've been doing this for a long time.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, and one thing too. When we first discovered pine bark, [00:14:00] it's not only like inflammation. Absolutely, but energy.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: So most people obviously with rheumatoid arthritis, autoimmune disorder, their energy is in the tank most of the time. Navitol does twofold because it not only lowers your inflammation, but it will give you more energy. So when we first discovered pine back extract, I mean we're going back a long time now, the first [00:14:30] thing that it did that we noticed was that it crossed the blood-brain barrier. It just gave you more oxygen, gave you more energy.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, people felt better. Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean I would also, for rheumatoid arthritis, I would definitely take a look at the gut because the gut plays a massive role in autoimmune disorders. So I would definitely be taking probiotics. I would fix the gut. I would identify any kind of food sensitivity. Avoid those foods that make it worse because you've got to remember [00:15:00] autoimmune, the body's turning on itself. Sometimes it turns on the joints, you end up with rheumatoid. Sometimes it turns on the thyroid, you get Hashimoto's, but the root cause can be very same for a lot of people. It just shows up differently. So I would identify, again, the cause. The effect is rheumatoid. What's the cause of ... What's making it irritate? What's making it worse? A lot of times it's just switching a few foods out, fixing the gut, [00:15:30] and then stuff like Navitol, Kirkman, DHA, probiotics, all great for joint health. That's the route I would go down. All right, Brandi.
Brandi: [Erna 00:15:40] would like to know how long does it take to clear candida from the gut.
Dr.Martin Jr: That's the million-dollar question, isn't it? Again, it's our favorite answer. It depends. We can have a whole radio show saying it depends. It wouldn't get any listens, but it depends. Again, how bad is it?
Dr.Martin Sr: Sponsored by Depends diapers. No Depends ... [00:16:00] Not diapers. What are they called?
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, it's one of those things that, again, why is it there in the first place? Typically, it's a bad digestive system. Typically, the acid in the stomach, the gallbladder, everything that's supposed to be stopping the bacteria from or the candida to get into the gut and then multiply is not doing its job. Then it crosses the blood-brain barrier. Sorry. Crosses the barrier in the gut into the blood, [00:16:30] and then it can cross the blood-brain barrier because they've shown that candida, and we had a video on this where candida can actually get into people's brains. So the only way it can get into the brain or the blood is if it gets into your digestive system. So that's first and foremost.
Dr.Martin Jr: How long has it been there for? The longer somebody's been having problems with candida, it's going to take some time to kill it off because they're stubborn. They can take a while. Food feeds it, right? Certain types of food feed it. [00:17:00] It craves certain things and we tend to give it to it a lot. Dad, you would answer this because you've seen so much of this in the clinic.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah. Well the thing is I always tell people it depends. You're right, and you know what? You're better off to be on the safe side because on thing about candida yeast fungus, it loves moisture. So once it gets into the body, it can land in your lungs, it can land in your sinuses, it can land on your skin. [00:17:30] A lot of eczema, psoriasis is fungal-based. As Doc Junior was just saying about getting into the brain, you know what they showed about candida by the way is that when they were doing autopsies on people with Parkinson's-
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: ... that that was one of the most common denominators, that the amount of candida yeast that was found in the brain of [00:18:00] Parkinson's disease. So again, all I'm saying is especially ladies, you understand yeast. Men don't understand yeast very much, but women do. Think of a yeast infection. Well why does that happen? Moisture and a lot of times with the bladder, it's yeast. It's not bacterial. It's yeast. So you take an antibiotic because you've got a yeast, you have a burning. I don't blame you. You want [00:18:30] to take an antibiotic. The problem is that when you're killing your good bacteria, you're setting yourself up for a reoccurring not only yeast infections, but also bladder, reoccurring bladder. That's what happened oftentimes in the sinuses. You get one sinus infection, you take an antibiotic, then you got chronic sinusitis and it's not bacteria. It's yeast. Then you get postnasal [00:19:00] drip that goes down the throat. So I just tell people, "Look, it might take you a year. It might take you two years to get rid of candida completely."
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, and I would tell people that have real bad sinuses as an FYI to get a little thing to measure the humidity in their room where they sleep. They'll find out in the wintertime it's so dry that it's actually harder on the sinuses and causes a postnasal drip. So a good humidifier, you can keep that humidity level between 40 and 60%. It's incredible [00:19:30] how much that helps people at nighttime, but that was just a little side thing. All right, Brandi. What's up next?
Brandi: Judy would like to know on the reset because you're not having any sugar, does this affect your electrolytes.
Dr.Martin Jr: On the reset because you're not having sugar, does it affect ... No, because sugar isn't an electrolyte. Here's the thing. A lot of people that do go on a low-carb or a reset type of thing do get into muscle cramping issues because they aren't consuming enough electrolytes. [00:20:00] The more water they drink which helps can also take that ratio of electrolytes down. So they definitely want to be salting things. There's certain ways, there's tricks around it, but it's not uncommon for somebody to go real low-carb and start getting muscle cramps. That's an indication that they're not getting enough electrolytes. They've got to up their salt. There's no question they should be taking magnesium, a little bit of potassium, those [00:20:30] kind of things for sure, but sugar isn't ...
Dr.Martin Jr: Gatorade did a good job kind of fooling with people a little bit by thinking that that's part of what you need to rehydrate. It's not. Glucose in no way is an electrolyte. Stuff like salt, magnesium, potassium, those are the things that generally will lead to low electrolyte issues. When you're not eating ... Yeah, when you cut out carbs, you're cutting out some of the [00:21:00] stuff that you usually would get for electrolytes. So you have to get them in other places.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, the other thing is sugar actually dehydrates you.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, sugar dehydrates. That's-
Dr.Martin Sr: It affects the kidneys and you're not secreting your potassium and magnesium. You're not keeping it in your body. You're getting rid of it.
Dr.Martin Jr: Then you're bloating up after as well.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah. Usually too when you're low carbing, especially if you get into ketosis, [00:21:30] you might get into cramping, but that usually is temporary. As your body adjusts to the new fuel and as Junior was saying, it's a good idea, one of the was you can really salt up is to take Himalayan salt. Take the pink salt which is a much better salt, full of potassium and magnesium and iodine and stuff like that. The minerals are in there. So a lot of times, you don't have to [00:22:00] add electrolytes. Just add a good salt and it can make a big difference, but some people need some magnesium which is never bad for you or potassium. I dehydrate very quickly by the way. That's just the way I am. Tony Jr. Sweats. I don't sweat. You don't see it, but I dehydrate very quickly. I have to be extremely careful for me in the heat or when I exercise, and I usually don't [00:22:30] feel it then. It's afterwards and I really got to be well hydrated or I'm in trouble.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah. Yeah. All right, Brandi.
Brandi: CJ would like to know if you can speak on fasting and how long is good enough.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah. So fasting, all right. Let's talk just real ... I'll kind of go through this quickly because we get this question a lot and it's a great question. There are a few different ways people fast, [00:23:00] but even before I get into that, the idea of fasting is very simple. There are two big reasons why people fast. The first thing is because insulin is a food hormone, meaning whenever you eat food, insulin is secreted. When you're not eating food, insulin kind of tapers off. Right? So the idea is if somebody has insulin or metabolic issues, they don't eat food, insulin stays low, and then they also start to strip away at [00:23:30] the glycogen storage in their liver and stuff like that. So it's good to clean things out that way.
Dr.Martin Jr: Now, the best way to fast really depends on what somebody's comfortable with. The most common way by far is the 16-8 method which is people are fasting for 16 hours a day and then they're eating for eight hours a day. A lot of people do very well with that. Most people, they'll skip breakfast, they'll eat around 12:00 or 1:00, they'll stop eating around eight [00:24:00] o'clock at night, and then they rinse and repeat. It's a 16-8 and they feel great doing it. Some diabetics don't do as well that way. They do better eating in the morning and fasting until they eat about 4:00 PM, fast til the next morning. Some diabetics do much better that way and it has to do with a natural reaction for a lot of people where their blood sugar levels are higher in the morning and that's normal. Most people that way, some though if you're diabetic, it's a little bit more out of control in the morning so they tend to do [00:24:30] better eating in the morning, but whatever. That's the most common way.
Dr.Martin Jr: Then there's the every other day fasting method, and that's effective as well and the best way to do that is you eat supper and you fast until supper the next day. So that's a 24-hour fast, but you get to eat food everyday. Some people do that once or twice a week and they're good like that. They do it and then there's more of a therapeutic fast which is like 24 hours plus. Some people do a couple day fast, three-day fast. They'll cleanse whatever. So that's the most common way, but [00:25:00] what's the most effective is one that you can do. That's always the best. Do one that you can do. Do you have to fast every day? No. If you can incorporate some fasting in, it's good to be metabolically flexible, but here's what we do know and there's been a few studies out over the last little bit to show eating windows.
Dr.Martin Jr: There was a real interesting study that looked at the effect of fasting nine. So they would eat nine-hour window [00:25:30] rather than eight, and they found that metabolically was people were healthier, blood sugar levels were better, and even if they didn't lose weight ... And that's one thing I want to say quickly. A lot of research shows fasting is beneficial even if the person isn't losing weight. It still helps their blood sugar levels, it still helps a whole bunch of metabolic health markers even if somebody isn't losing weight because one of the things people do is they fast for weight loss and they're like, "I'm not really losing weight," but [00:26:00] research is showing that the metabolic markers are getting healthier. So that's ... Generally speaking, like I said, we would recommend most people that 16-8 method. Some people might fast even 18 hours and eat for six hours, but whatever works. We're just big fans of fasting. I don't know if you want to add anything to that, Dad.
Dr.Martin Sr: I think I say Margaret there asked a question about what about five days. Now you're getting into the things that I don't like. Okay. For a long [00:26:30] period of time fasting, like not eating at all for five days, I don't think that beneficial. I think ... I've seen a couple of studies on three-day fasts to start ... You get a diagnosis of cancer for example.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, that three-day fast seems to be magical.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, it's like a three-day, 72-hour type of thing where they're not eating just to start off, you can do, but I'm not [00:27:00] so big on going past that. I think that ... Look, one thing I know for sure is we eat too much and we eat too often.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: That's for sure. Okay? The key, what fasting does the most in my opinion is that it lowers your insulin resistance because insulin is a food hormone. So when you're not eating, especially if you get past the 12 hours, so if you stop [00:27:30] at six o'clock at night and you go to six o'clock in the morning, well now you've gone 12 hours and if you can get into the 14, 16, 18 hours, the more you get it ... Sometimes like Tony Jr. has said in emails, you have to work your way into that because maybe on the first day, you don't feel so good, but a lot of people find that, "You know what? I feel I can stretch it out." What that is doing is it lowers all [00:28:00] your markers of inflammation because you're lowering your insulin. You're lowering your insulin resistance. One of the other studies have shown is that you turn on your autophagy, right? So what that does is you're eating up cancer cells.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, you're eating up all the junk.
Dr.Martin Sr: All the junk in your body.
Dr.Martin Jr: Now, one more thing I'll say after is ... Just let me just say this real quickly. One of the reasons I'm not [00:28:30] a big fan of the real long fast is because one of the biggest problems we have as we age already at this point is muscle loss. Muscle is harder to build as we age, and muscle loss can happen pretty quickly. So when somebody's not eating for five days and they're not getting enough protein, that kind of ... It's that risk-reward. Is the benefit ... I think you can get a three-day fast and get what you need out of it rather than these really long ones, but again, some people do well on them. So [00:29:00] all right, Brandi. What's up next?
Brandi: Ruth would like to know what some underlying reasons for rashes would be.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: Gut, gut, gut, gut, gut.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, that's ... Usually it's a-
Dr.Martin Sr: You look at your skin and you've got a rash, you got something going on in your gut. One of them I just mentioned was yeast. It's fungal. It's candida. It's so often misdiagnosed because people want to put a label on psoriasis, eczema, [00:29:30] dermatitis, acne, you name it on the skin, but the skin is directly related to your gut.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: This is why when we put people on probiotics, digestive enzymes, and ... Because the stomach and the gut, they work together, but your stomach is very, very acidic and it needs to be acidic. If you get ... A lot of people don't have enough [00:30:00] acidity in their stomach. So that's a huge issue and they're not producing enough amylase or protease or lipase to break down food properly. That can affect your skin big time. Bacteria like H. pylori and others like that, [inaudible 00:30:22] are small intestine ones, but the gut is so key when it comes to the skin. [00:30:30] I've cleared up thousands of patients over the years. I mean it.
Dr.Martin Jr: Now, a differential-
Dr.Martin Sr: Cleaning up their gut.
Dr.Martin Jr: A differential diagnosis would definitely be gut first, first and foremost for a majority. Hormones can also do it.
Dr.Martin Sr: Hormones.
Dr.Martin Jr: Hormones can cause that as well. Those would be the two. They'd cover most cases, gut and hormones and sometimes both. A lot of times gut causes hormonal issues, but like my dad said, for any kind of skin issue, [00:31:00] I would recommend probiotics, I'd recommend digestive enzymes, I would also recommend high DHA and Navitol is generally what we would use for that kind of stuff. Then if it's a hormonal issue, you got to address the hormonal issue as well, but those four things there take up a lot, clear up a lot of skin stuff. All right, Brandi.
Brandi: Farrah would like to know if you can discuss sweeteners and which one is best to not disrupt gut flora.
Dr.Martin Sr: Oh, good question.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, so one of the problems [00:31:30] with sweeteners, especially as they kept on inventing all these different types of sweeteners, is they're starting to look at now the effect that these things have on microbiome which is that colony of bacteria that live in your gut that's necessary for good health and do these sweeteners have an effect on gut bacteria. Some absolutely do. Right? Some of the common commercial ones do have an effect on your good bacteria. So those are the ones we usually tell people to stay away from [00:32:00] as much as possible. I mean we live on planet Earth. It's pretty hard.
Dr.Martin Jr: It brings up an interesting discussion because you hear this a lot. We get asked this question a lot. Is regular pop better than sweetener pop? So it's kind of a funny discussion because are sweeteners worse for you or is sugar worse for you? That's a discussion for another time, but it's interesting people want to know about sweeteners. There are a lot of good sweeteners and there are some that are bad sweeteners. A [00:32:30] lot of the commercially heavily used sweeteners, they definitely have their issues with them. We like erythritol is a big one that we like. That's been shown to not affect good bacteria and it's a little harder to get, but you could definitely find it. A lot of people ... Dad, I've heard you say this before. Stevia is okay depending on the source. You got to remember some of it's highly processed.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Jr: But some of the Stevia [00:33:00] is good, but some people don't like the taste of Stevia and I'm not a huge fan. To be honest with you, I don't even tolerate Stevia that well. I got the weirdest digestive system.
Dr.Martin Sr: A lot of people though, a lot of people do not tolerate-
Dr.Martin Jr: No.
Dr.Martin Sr: ... even any kind of sugar alcohol.
Dr.Martin Jr: No.
Dr.Martin Sr: Stevia is not a sugar alcohol, but anything with OL at the end. So when you see xylitol or erythritol, mannitol ... I mean I remember there [00:33:30] was-
Dr.Martin Jr: That's like a bomb.
Dr.Martin Sr: I was so excited about this ice cream because-
Dr.Martin Jr: Oh, yeah. It's like a bomb in the stomach. If you want to have gas for the next five days, consume that.
Dr.Martin Sr: I remember that it was like ... But it tasted so stinking good, but oh, it only took about five minutes to start-
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, that's a bomb in the stomach.
Dr.Martin Sr: ... in your gut and it was explosion.
Dr.Martin Jr: You can't digest it, right? I understand there's all these different sweeteners. A lot of people like monk fruit. Monk fruit is good. Again, [00:34:00] there are a lot of good ones out there. First, can you tolerate it? Second, is there any evidence that shows it kills good bacteria? Is a big one you look at. Does it affect insulin? That's another interesting debate. People that are really, really insulin resistant, some sweeteners can cause an insulin response which is interesting because it's zero calorie, but it can fool enough. So there are some interesting discussions, but again, we like to talk more 80-20 rule for people. [00:34:30] If you can find a sweetener that isn't highly processed, that isn't on the list of stuff that's going to cause all these issues, and you can digest it well and it's not going to kill good bacteria, then by all means go nuts.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, I understand. Some people, for coffee for example, they got to put a sweetener in their coffee. Right? So they're trying all these different ones. Yeah, I mean it's an interesting discussion on sweeteners, but like I said, those [00:35:00] are kind of the guidelines that we use when talking about that. There are some-
Dr.Martin Sr: I wouldn't overuse them. That's all I tell people.
Dr.Martin Jr: Don't-
Dr.Martin Sr: You know what? It's amazing too just on this because especially when they're doing the reset or whatever, they want to go low carb or whatever, they're always looking to sweeten things because you're coming off sugars.
Dr.Martin Jr: Oh, yeah. The brain works that way.
Dr.Martin Sr: So it's a practical ... It's a very good question.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, it is. If sweetener is going to make it easier for people, [00:35:30] then sometimes that's what they got to do until they come off.
Dr.Martin Sr: It can be a transition and then-
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah. Yeah, because the metabolic health ... Again, we're looking at them from a metabolic health standpoint. Sometimes they need to put sweeteners in stuff which let's correct the underlying thing and then let's tighten that up after. Yeah, all right. Brandi, what's up?
Brandi: Mara would like to know if you don't have a gallbladder, what should you be eating or taking for your system.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, gallbladder, [00:36:00] it's an interesting thing because the gallbladder does a lot more than people give it credit for. When you remove a gallbladder, and sometimes because they're so full of stones and they're so painful that essentially the gallbladder is dead, you got to take it out of there or it's causing some issues which some people have to do that, but they are going to set themselves up for more issues down the road. There's no question. Obviously the digestive issues that are going to come along with that, but also the gallbladder plays a role [00:36:30] in protecting you from junk. Right? Candida and all those things that come through there, the gallbladder plays a role. So somebody who lost their gallbladder is going to be at a much higher risk for those kind of things.
Dr.Martin Jr: So here's ... You want to be taking digestive enzymes. There's no question. You want to ... If somebody doesn't have a gallbladder, they need digestive enzymes in my opinion. It's something they should get used to doing. They also ... There's a lot of [00:37:00] debate out there on what kind of foods they should be eating after. Can they eat high fat stuff? Should they eat ... They can still eat low carb. They may have to cut back on fat a little bit just because they might not tolerate that well, might not be able to digest it, but the big issue is you're going to be at a much higher risk for candida yeast, leaky gut, those kind of stuff. Then usually a good digestive enzyme makes that part of it a lot easier. I don't know if you have anything else you want to add to [00:37:30] that, Dad.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, well just the fact that it's a 90-10 rule. 90% of gallbladders happen in women. It's kind of fascinating, right? Women, it's hormones. Think about the difference in a woman. If you have estrogen dominance, that can attack. One of the common symptoms of estrogen dominance is gallbladder problems.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: How do I know that? Well because women oftentimes after having a baby [00:38:00] where they lose all their progesterone in the placenta, they get a gallbladder attack within a week or two weeks or a month after having a baby. That's because of progesterone, a lack of it. So that's one thing, but the other thing too and I always say this about the gallbladder. The gallbladder is in-between two things, your liver and your pancreas. Those two organs have a [00:38:30] huge, huge effect on the gallbladder. So it's important to lower your insulin because that affects your gallbladder. It's also important to lower your insulin because that affects your liver. Your liver, you get fatty liver. The liver has a big effect on the gallbladder.
Dr.Martin Sr: So I tell people, "Look, you lower your insulin, you often can save your gallbladder." Amazing. You can lower your estrogen, [00:39:00] you dim it out. We use the hormonal formula and that dims that estrogen down. A lot of times they're so much better in their gallbladder. You got to ... Of course the enzymes. Of course you want to treat that.A lot of times one of the things that I find effective just for the gallbladder is stop eating.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, fasting.
Dr.Martin Sr: Try and eat, stop eating about five o'clock.
Dr.Martin JR: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: [00:39:30] I know it's not always possible, but if you can, stop eating. Give yourself that fasting. Boy, that makes a difference on the gallbladder. It empties it out. One of the things that Tony Jr. was saying and this is so true, one of the things that your gallbladder does, it's a reservoir. It's a little pouch and it dumps bile. It dumps, it emulsifies the fat, but that bile has a big factor on your pH in [00:40:00] your gut. So for bacteria, even this virus to get inside your body and all that because your body is unbelievably and fearfully and wonderfully made, ready to fight all that stuff. It's amazing. Those organs, you can live without it, but it's an important one.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, it's not optimal. All right, Brandi. What's up next?
Brandi: Dove would like to know if you have fungus in your body, is it okay to [00:40:30] use a sauna.
Dr.Martin Jr: Is it okay to use a sauna? Sure.
Dr.Martin Sr: It's probably the moisture you're thinking, right?
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: Sweating. Oh, it's so good for you.
Dr.Martin Jr: Saunas ... Listen. Sauna's tremendous for cardiovascular health, tremendous for dementia, Alzheimer's prevention. Honestly, saunas are one of the best thing, preventative things people can do for overall health. Great for high blood pressure, great for cardiovascular health, great for dementia, Alzheimer's, and [00:41:00] won't have a negative effect on candida. That's for sure because candida, really to be honest, even if it's on your skin, it's an internal issue. Right? It's something that goes on on the inside which is why, when somebody has real bad nail fungus, they give them a pill to kill it because it's really an internal issue. Yeah, a sauna will have so many positive effects and it won't have a negative effect at all on candida. All right, Brandi.
Brandi: Dr. Martin, Jr., [00:41:30] we all know you can't eat eggs. How did you determine you couldn't eat eggs? Was it the elimination diet?
Dr.Martin Jr: Oh, it was-
Brandi: What do you eat during the day?
Dr.Martin Jr: So yeah, it was painfully obvious because when I eat an egg, I was in ridiculous amount of pain, even hospitalized early on in my 20s. I was eating scrambled eggs and I didn't know what was going on at the time, but it didn't take too long to figure out that I just can't eat eggs. They just cause [00:42:00] a lot of discomfort, a lot of pain. So that's the thing. So I get egg envy. I always say that because it's such a great, easy, fast source of protein. Right? So I do lift weights. I do like to exercise so I got to ... Getting protein, honestly for me, is not easy because I can't digest a majority of proteins. Powered proteins, I can't tolerate almost every one on the market. [00:42:30] Bone broth, I can. Some collagen-based, I can. But wheys and pea proteins and vegetable proteins and plant proteins, I just can't. I don't do well with them at all.
Dr.Martin Jr: So I got to get protein the old-fashioned way with food. I'll eat a fair amount of bacon after I lift weights. I got to get the old-fashioned way. I just can't have eggs. It's unfortunate. Eggs are so good for you, loaded with amino [00:43:00] acids and all these kind of things. It's a great protein, but I can't get it. I don't do well with cheese either. So the eggs, meat, and cheese diet doesn't cut it for me. I just can't do it. Again, if I ... It's so funny, right?
Dr.Martin Sr: He's weird.
Dr.Martin Jr: Oh, my digestive system is very weird.
Dr.Martin Sr: But Tony-
Dr.Martin Jr: It's very eccentric, I tell people.
Dr.Martin Sr: You know what? My first-born, Tony Jr., [00:43:30] I always tell the story of well what happened to-
Dr.Martin Jr: Oh, I blame mom 100%
Dr.Martin Sr: 100% your mother. It was not my fault.
Dr.Martin Jr: No, the blame lies solely with my mother.
Dr.Martin Sr: I got a personal story because Rosie had one kidney and they found that out. She near died when she was eight years old. She was on antibiotics for seven or eight years-
Dr.Martin Jr: Straight.
Dr.Martin Sr: ... every day.
Dr.Martin Jr: [00:44:00] Every day.
Dr.Martin Sr: In those days, they didn't understand the side effects. You got to understand. You go back to 19 ... Rosie was born in 1951.
Dr.Martin Jr: I don't think she'd want you to say that.
Dr.Martin Sr: Oh, I didn't mean to say that. I was born in 1951, but when your mother was pregnant with you, Tony Jr., because of this kidney, she got a kidney infection and she only has one, had a kidney infection early, early. I think within the first month or two [00:44:30] of her pregnancy with you, and guess what? Like antibiotics, they said, "You can't take a chance. If that kidney shuts down, you're not going to live." Not you, Tony, but your mom. So she was on antibiotics the rest of her pregnancy with you. Guess what? You were the first born and man, oh man, your gut.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: I could write a book just about your gut.
Dr.Martin Jr: Oh, yeah. No, I've had problems my whole life with my gut, but I mean now, my gut, [00:45:00] like I said, has been good for a fair amount of time. I got a very restrictive ... Yeah, I just can't ... Like I said, I always try different ... Over the years, I've always tried different ... "Well maybe I can try this again," and I just can't.
Dr.Martin Sr: Can't do it.
Dr.Martin Jr: Now, I'm 46 years old and I've given up the ghost. I'm just not going to eat eggs.
Dr.Martin Sr: No, you know what? I tell a lot of people by the way, I put my hands like this in the office, and I go-
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: [00:45:30] ... "Bring your diet in."
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: Rope it in.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah. You can't-
Dr.Martin Sr: You don't do well with this food? Listen to it. That's the elimination.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: By elimination, you know you don't do well with that food. Stop eating it.
Dr.Martin Jr: When I had done a digestive test, like a sensitivity test, I had the guy call me after and thought it was a mistake because literally there was so many things that it just went off the chart. I'm like, "No, welcome to my digestive system." Again, I can't complain because the probiotics and the enzymes and stuff like that has done [00:46:00] really well for me, but yes, that's where we're at. So when I talk about digestive issues, I can empathize because I've been through them big time. I've been through them. All right. Next question, Brandi. Enough about my gut.
Brandi: Dr. Martin, Sr., we all know you love your coffee. Is there a specific brand that you recommend?
Dr.Martin Sr: Well look, I'm a dark roast guy so I'm not even going to give you a name. I love dark roast coffee. [00:46:30] I was a Tim Horton's guy for 100 years. I travel-
Dr.Martin Jr: Give or take a few years.
Dr.Martin Sr: I remember going about 40 miles one day out of my way just to get a Tim Horton's.
Dr.Martin Jr: I do remember that, yes.
Dr.Martin Sr: You remember that, Tony?
Dr.Martin Jr: Yes. Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: So for me, I love coffee and I love dark roast. Now, everybody's different with that.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: All coffee is good for you. It's what you put in it.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: You know what I mean?
Dr.Martin Jr: [00:47:00] Coffee-
Dr.Martin Sr: The coffee is good, but if you are adding your sugars or you got to have-
Dr.Martin Jr: A good organic coffee, a good organic coffee-
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Jr: ... like source-
Dr.Martin Sr: That's what I drink. A good-
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: ... organic-
Dr.Martin Jr: Sourced properly, organic because like I said, a lot of times these things are sprayed quite a bit. So a good ... I'm not a ... I like coffee. I drink my share, fair share.
Dr.Martin Sr: I like McDonald's coffee.
Dr.Martin Jr: But I'm not a dark roast person neither so we'll-
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, I feel sorry for you. [00:47:30] But you used to-
Dr.Martin Jr: I'm not strong enough for a dark roast.
Dr.Martin Sr: ... laugh because when Ethan was ... What do you call them over at Starbucks, the baristas or-
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: What do they call those guys?
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, barista. My son used to supervise at a Starbucks for a long time.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, well you know what? I mean he used to tell me how much sugar they put in all those coffee cappuccinos and all this.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: We're not talking that, I hope.
Dr.Martin Jr: No, no.
Dr.Martin Sr: People understand that, [00:48:00] right?
Dr.Martin Jr: All right, Brandi.
Brandi: Judy would like to know if you have thyroid issues, does the hormone support in time help with energy.
Dr.Martin Jr: Oh, yeah, because if you regulate or you get a thyroid kind of balanced out and working properly, thyroid is your gas pedal of your body. Right? Your thyroid is tiny. It secretes a very little amount of thyroid hormone throughout the year, but [00:48:30] it is the gas pedal. It does make everything operate at the right speed. So energy is a big part of thyroid function. I would say though that with somebody that has low thyroid, there are other things going on behind the scenes that's also causing low energy. So you want to get that thyroid functioning optimally, but there are other ... The thyroid, we've said this last week, but the thyroid's a puppet. There are other things as well. A lot of times if you watch the video that we did on thyroid [00:49:00] on our website, you'll see that the thyroid often is attacked by other things and a lot of ...
Dr.Martin Jr: Here's the thing. Most people that have thyroid symptoms, they have normal blood testing. It's such a common thing. They have every symptom in the book. They go to their doctor and the doctor does the blood testing, and the doctor comes back and says, "Hey, everything is normal." Then the person is left wondering, "How could it be normal? I got every symptom in the book." That's a very common issue for thyroid. [00:49:30] We have a video on why that is. There's a few big reasons for that, but that happens for a lot of people and the reason is is they're getting thyroid symptoms because it's a thyroid distress. The thyroid's like a little beacon. It's letting it know that there's something going on and there is stuff going on behind the scenes.
Dr.Martin Jr: So if somebody has a true thyroid issue where they are low in the testing, they go on Synthroid, and they feel better, that's great, but a lot of people [00:50:00] have thyroid problems. If it shows up normal or even if it shows up low, they go on Synthroid, and they don't feel any better or they get the blood test and everything's normal, then they got thyroid distress syndrome. There's something else going on around there. You want to fix the thyroid and address whatever else is causing that thyroid issue. So thyroid is very complex which is why, in our opinion, it's mishandled so often because there's so much going on behind the scenes for thyroid. [00:50:30] All right, Brandi.
Brandi: [inaudible 00:50:33].
Dr.Martin Jr: We got about eight minutes left so we'll just try to rapid fire here if you can.
Brandi: Bev would like to know if there's anything you need to do to prepare for the reset.
Dr.Martin Jr: Pray.
Dr.Martin Sr: Well you know what I say about the reset. It's simple, but it's not easy.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, the concept is simple.
Dr.Martin Sr: It is drastic-
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: ... in the sense that you got to [00:51:00] ... You almost have to ... It's like heaven, right? It's like heaven. You hear a lot about it and it sounds wonderful, but until you get there, you really can't 100% know what it's like. The reset is like that. I mean it's once people do it and they get into the first week. So you've got to be determined. To get ready, you just got to understand that [00:51:30] it's going to be suck it up, buttercup for a couple of days-
Dr.Martin Jr: It's not-
Dr.Martin Sr: ... til you're ... You know?
Dr.Martin Jr: Because a lot of people, we like the questions. People say, "What can I eat on the reset?"
Dr.Martin Sr: Eggs, meat, and cheese.
Dr.Martin Jr: Then they're like, "Okay. So what else can I eat?" We're like, "Eggs, meat, and cheese."
Dr.Martin Sr: Eggs, meat, and cheese.
Dr.Martin Jr: "Well what do you have with the eggs, meat, and cheese?"
Dr.Martin Sr: I explain it, actually I explain it and in the new book that we're writing right now, I explain why-
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: ... those three foods and not others.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: There's a reason for it. Temporarily, [00:52:00] it's-
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: It's a temporary fix, right?
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, but it is. To get ready for it, you have to be prepared for cravings. You have to be ... You have to mentally prepare especially if you're metabolically broken. You have to prepare. The body is going to fight hard against it at first, but once you get through it, everybody says, most people will say, "Listen, after so many days, I'm no longer hungry. I'm worried I'm not eating enough," that kind of stuff. But yeah, [00:52:30] so that'd be my advice beforehand. All right, Brandi.
Brandi: Is there anything wrong with using a barbecue?
Dr.Martin Jr: I hope not. Listen-
Dr.Martin Sr: I love barbecue.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, I mean again, there is something to be said about not eating burnt food because there is a chemical reaction that takes place there. Again, people will debate about smokers. There are the big smokers that people use. Is there an effect of the chemicals [00:53:00] on the food? Again, look at the big picture first, right? If somebody is used to eating junk all the time and they get to eating more whole foods and they barbecue or smoke them, that's still better than what they were doing before. You can always tighten in after. There's no question. The smoke from the ... The food from a smoker is not going to kill them nearly at the same rate as a typical Western diet will. Right? I mean [00:53:30] we can get kind of bogged down by weird things sometimes, but yeah, listen. Again, just don't burn your ... Just don't eat burnt food. I mean like I said, I mean I know I go to my dad's house for a barbecue a lot. We barbecue. So for us to say there's something wrong with it, I can't see what the issue would be.
Dr.Martin Sr: Eat your steak, Vitamin S.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, just don't burn your food. Honestly, that would be the one thing that we would tell people not to do, eat the burnt stuff.
Dr.Martin Sr: Don't overcook [00:54:00] it.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah. All right, Brandi.
Brandi: Why do some people get flu-like symptoms while on the reset?
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, that's keto flu. That's the same. Again, the body, you're going to hit a certain point where your energy is going to fall off the table. You're going to get to a certain point where you may get headaches. You get a keto-like flu thing. There are a few reasons for that. Some could be as simple as not getting enough water and electrolytes. Other people may not be eating enough, [00:54:30] but when you switch from burning carbs to burning fat and you become fat-adapted, they call it, or keto-adapted and that could take a little bit of time, you can go through a keto flu-like thing. So that definitely happens. Again, it's like anything else. The body is detoxifying. All your mental cravings, everything, but when you switch over to ketones for fuel, the body can have flu-like symptoms. [00:55:00] That does happen. All right, Brandi.
Brandi: Why do our probiotics not need to be refrigerated?
Dr.Martin Jr: Soil-based. So they're soil-based probiotics. That's why. They don't need to be refrigerated for that reason. They're just resilient. Most probiotics, if they need to be refrigerated, they lose about 25% every month of their content just through that's how it works. [00:55:30] Soil-based ones are definitely more resilient which is one of the reasons why we use them. We built our formula first and foremost and then we went and got the kind that we like that gets through a little bit more pH-resistant as well. They get through the acid a lot better. So there's a few reasons that went into that, but that's why.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: And a very good broad spectrum and the email that went out today about-
Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: ... probiotics and why we chose [00:56:00] certain, the formula we did, you really see the advantage of that probiotic.
Dr.Martin Jr: All right, Brandy.
Dr.Martin Sr: Soil-based, you can't kill them. You can take them on holidays with you. Can't take dairy-based ones because you lose. If you keep putting it in room temperature, you lose all the effectiveness of the bacteria. They die.
Dr.Martin Jr: All right. So we'll do one more question and then you're keeping track of the questions, Brandi. You can give them to my dad to answer tomorrow during his Q&A.
Brandi: Yeah.
Dr.Martin Jr: Again, we're going to do this more [00:56:30] often. We're going to do this again next week because we have a lot of fun doing this. The questions are great and there's so many questions and I know we can't get to them all. We really like the fact that you guys are spending time here with us. All right, Brandi. One more question just to make it good one.
Brandi: While you're on the reset, do you continue with your supplements?
Dr.Martin Sr: Yes.
Dr.Martin Jr: Yes, for sure. Yeah.
Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, absolutely.
Dr.Martin Jr: Is that it, Brandi? Okay. All right. So again, guys, listen. We had [00:57:00] a lot of fun doing this. We're going to do this again next week especially that we're still in lockdown mode for who knows how long. So we're going to do this again next week. We're going to put a recording of this on the website. We'll send this out next week in an email, and we're going to actually have them, we're going to have a dropdown menu on our website where you can access these Q&As to make it easier for people. Again, listen. Thanks, everybody, for joining us. We had a fun time. Have a great day and we'll talk to you guys later. Thanks.
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