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Dr. Martin: Well, good morning everyone, and once again, welcome to another live this morning. Great to be with you guys and happy Thanksgiving to all the Canadians. Okay, let me just give you a couple of headlines that I read about this weekend. We'll do a little pontificating on them. Here's one. Cancer cells require 20 to 30 times more glucose than normal cells to survive. Okay? Cancer cells require 20 to 30 times more glucose than normal cells to survive. It's interesting, isn't it, that even today if you went to an oncologist, 90% of them or more wouldn't even talk to you about diet. They're not trained in diets. They don't look at the research, okay? And cancer cells require 20 to 30 times more glucose. Isn't it amazing that you would think as part of every protocol, every protocol for cancer would include, Hey, how about we cut out glucose out of your diet?
Okay? And whether you went strictly carnivore as a cancer or you went ketogenic, meaning that everybody's a little bit different, but here's a ketogenic diet. You cut out carbs almost to a hundred percent, and your body will have to burn ketones rather than burning glucose. See, it's what gets to the fire first, right? Like paper and twigs will burn first. That's what I always said about carbohydrates. I'm not saying all carbs are bad, but carbs break down rapidly and that's the point of it. That's why I am always very, very adamant on eating whole foods, foods that have lots of density, foods that are full of nutrients. What are foods full of? Nutrients. Well, eggs, meat and cheese, dairy, butter and cream and yeah, even yogurt. Plain Greek yogurt, yeah, good for you. Lots of protein and you've got a few sugars in dairy. But anyway, not in butter.
Cancer cells required 20 to 30 times more glucose than normal cells. Ask your doctor, you know how they use the advertisement in the us, okay? Ask your doctor if this medication would be good for you. I want you to ask your doctor if you have cancer. Should I cut out sugar? I know in our cancer hospital here, we got a big cancer center here in my hometown and they got a Tim Hortons in it. Have a donut. You got cancer, have a donut. Oh, how about a brand muffin? A raisin brand muffin. Oh, it's only got eight teaspoons of sugar in it. Eight teaspoons of sugar in it. Oh, doc, how about a carrot muffin? Eight teaspoons of sugar in it. So you think you're not feeding cancer with that? Any who? I don't want to get on a tangent because why don't I, let me give you another study this weekend, okay?
Well, it's actually an article I read. Let me read this to you. Okay? Some of you might've seen this online. I don't know. Dr. Patrick soon. Sh, S-H-I-O-N-G, last name Patrick, soon, SOON dash Shiong, S-H-I-O-N-G. Okay, this guy's smart. I've been reading some articles. This guy is smart and he's talking about cancer. His diatribe is on chemo and radiation, and he is an oncologist. He's a specialist. But here's, here's the article. We've waged war on cancer with tools of war being chemo, radiation. Okay? Let me just unpack this article. Here's what he's saying. When you nuke the tumor, you get radiation, you get chemo, they nuke the tumor with a form of in chemo, the old mustard gas, and some of it is a little less side effects than it used to be, but still very, very much nooky. Okay? Now listen to what he says.
But in nuking the tumor, this is what he's saying, we nuke the patient's first line of defense, okay? Which is there are two things, natural killer cells and T cells, okay? Natural killer cells and T-cell. What do I tell you guys all the time about natural killer cells and T-cell, your lymphatics, you have a line of defense. They're called your navy seals of your immune system. The problem with chemo or radiation, it nukes those guys, your T-cells that have antennas for vitamin D. Again, ask your doctor a vitamin D would be a good line of defense and a good line of treatment. If I have cancer, good luck with that. I know a lot of physicians, oncologists that said, don't take anything. It might interfere with the treatment. That gives me a migraine because you've got natural killer cells. They're looking for the sun, they're looking for vitamin D.
They have antennas for it. Okay, back to Dr. Patrick soon, Chung, I hope I pronounced it right, chemo and radiation. It kills your natural killer cells and T-cell. But let's break this down in articles that he's written. Okay, let's break this down. He says, first of all, chemo and radiation induce anemia because they kill your red blood cells, okay? They don't only kill your natural killer cells, they kill your red blood cells. Red blood cells bring you oxygen, so therefore when you kill those, you get anemia. But he says, we have a drug for that called epogen, EOG epi. They give you a medication to help with the anemia, which is caused by the treatment. That's one. And they do that not only to help your anemia, they want to give you more chemo because they have this idea that you have a cancer. We got to give you this much chemo.
And guys, I'm not telling you, okay? Don't come back and say, Dr. Martin doesn't want you to do chemo. I'm not telling you that. I'm giving you information, information to, usually you won't hear this. You'll never hear the other side. You'll never hear about the diet in cancer. You'll never hear, well, I got cancer. What choice do I have? And there's very little choices slash and burn. That's treatment for the last, what did he say? 75 years that, yeah, 75 years Modern oncology. This is the article. 75 years. Well, I've been around for almost 75 years, and I can tell you nothing much has changed. Okay, here we go. Now he says this, chemo and radiation induce anemia. Low red count, red blood cell, okay? And anemia. They want to continue the chemo. So what do they do? They give you a drug called epigene to elevate your red blood cells, and then your chemo wipes out neutrophils, white blood cells, neutrophils, they administer another drug, Neupogen, so EGEN and Neupogen, N-E-U-P-O-G-E-N, Neupogen, to counteract that, the fact that you're destroying your neutrophils, because that's what chemo does, it takes no prisoners.
Guys, chemo doesn't take any prisoners. It just wipes out stuff. Red blood cells, white blood cells, your natural killer cells, your T cells, okay? Just wipes it out and they're focused in, let's shrink that tumor at all costs, shrink the tumor. So this has been going on for 75 years. Okay? This is, I'm quoting Dr. Patrick soon, UNG famous for cancer research, and he's saying, this is madness. I'm quoting him. This is madness. We are systemically destroying the body's in innate immune system to save it. You know what the word innate means? Right inside your body, your body's innate system, okay? Your body's immune system has the can't help it. It sees a virus goes into action, it sees a bacteria, it goes into action, it sees a cancer cell, goes into action. Your body's innate immune system. It's amazing. Okay? I always say it. You're fearfully and wonderfully made, unbelievable.
And so they look at, okay, and this is quoting him again, they look at tumor shrinkage over patient survival, okay? I once asked an oncologist one time, what is the five year survival rate? This was on a particular patient and cancer, and I asked the oncologist, what was the five year survival rate? I already knew the answer. I just wanted to see if he knew it. I said, what's the five year survival rate? If you do chemo and radiation, what you're suggesting versus leave it alone for this particular patient in cancer. I knew the answer of it, and he said, well, if I leave it alone or if I treat it with chemo and radiation, their survival rate, I'm not talking about the tumor shrinkage. Their survival rate was the same. The five-year survival rate was the same. I said, well, why would you do it then?
And here's the answer. This is the honest to god truth. He said, because that's what we do here. I said, well, seriously, it's because that's what you do here. That's your answer. It wasn't very popular, but I was asking the question, what's the five-year survival rate? See with cancer, that's important. What's the survival rate? I remember a patient they were getting, or at least they've been offered, and they had to make a decision within, I can't remember. I think it was 24 hours. It certainly wasn't much more than 48, so right away, they just found out they had cancer, and the patient called me and what type of cancer and this and that. I hadn't seen them in several years, but they wanted my opinion. Well, I said, well, okay, what's the five-year survival rate with treatment? And I said, let's look it up. It gave you a 2% increase in survival rate.
I said, well, that's how much it's going to destroy your immune system, and you probably die of something else. This article is incredible because what he's saying is at the end of the day, is the importance of your T cells and your natural killer cells, your Navy SEAL guys, and they operate on vitamin D. He even mentions this in the article, the importance of vitamin D. They don't talk about it, and the importance of your immune system in cancer. Well, of course it's important, and apparently he's developing. I think he's got a bladder treatment that I read about the bladder cancer treatment that's been approved by the FDA, but only for bladder cancer, and they're trying to get it approved for other cancers, and the FDA is holding fast, and it bothers me because if you can find a medication and apparently the medication that he's promoting, it doesn't kill your natural immune system that actually enhances your T-cell and natural killer cells, and they've approved it for bladder cancer, but not any other cancer. Any who the headline on the article is the 75 year wrong turn on cancer treatment. The wrong turn.
Guys, listen, I just got to tell you something. Nothing's going to change rapidly. It just won't. It's so ingrained. Cancer treatment is so ingrained and oncologists, they have a vested interest. They have a vested interest because they get paid and they shouldn't be paid. By the way, I'm not saying don't pay them. I'm not saying that I don't know about in Canada. I think this is true in Canada too. Oncologists buy chemotherapy at wholesale prices and sell it back to the insurance company or in Canada to our health insurance at a profit. That's what I hear. Somebody tell me I'm crazy. Well, now they have a vested interest. Like I asked that one oncologist, I didn't even know if that was happening at the time. Well, he said, that's what we do here. I said, well, if the five year survival rate doesn't change whether you give treatment or you don't, why would you give treatment?
Well, that's what we do. Well, that's not good enough. That's not a good answer, is it? Look, guys, I've said this for a long time. You followed me for the last 30 or 40 years. A lot of you have. I'm consistent. What have I said? We're losing the war on cancer. We're not winning the war and cancer's worse than ever. It's like we're giving each other high fives. Is it cancer prevention month or is it breast cancer month? I can't remember. Or was that last month? I can't remember what's October? I want to scream. We raised millions and millions of dollars a year for cancer research. Lot of it never goes to cancer first of all. But you've got guys like, I got to remember his name now, Dr. Patrick, soon ung, and if it was going towards his research, man, I'd like that. I think that's a great idea.
I'd love to see them. I know research had been done on vitamin D, for example, in cancer. Okay, good luck trying to get it published. Good luck trying to get it as part of a protocol for cancer. Good luck. I'm not saying it'll never happen. I just don't think it'll happen in my lifetime. Anyways, demonized food, okay? Just because this was an article, demonized food. I kind of laughed because it's so true. Think of foods that have been demonize that are good for you. You know the list. Talk about 'em every day. Eggs, they've been demonized. Eggs are more in vogue now, but come with me back to the seventies and the eighties and the nineties about eggs and cholesterol, eggs demonized. Any friend of this podcast knows that that is crazier than being a hood. All if you're against an egg, just the nutritional value, butter, another demonized food.
Oh boy, did I ever watch that in the 1970s, okay? And I was screaming John the Baptist, loud in the wilderness. You guys are crazy with the introduction, especially in the seventies. It came before that a little bit, but especially in the seventies, margarine over butter. I tell you folks, it was craziness because listen, all I did, here's what I do with people. Okay? Bring me a steak, okay? Now give me the nutritional value of that. What's in steak? What's in butter? What's in an egg? Tell me all the vitamins. Tell me all the minerals. Tell me all the macros. Tell me what's in it. That's all I want to know. Don't give me your propaganda. Just give me science. Okay? Now, let's take margarine. Tell me what's in it. How do they make it? Oh, they use oil. Okay, oil that was made for your car makes margarine.
Yeah, bugs. I don't know about the size of the brain and a bug, but bugs are smarter than human beings. Why could they won't even touch margarine. Put out some butter, put out some margarine outside, and watch what bugs go to Bring any animal and see which one they'll go after. They're smarter than we are. Margarine. A bug goes, why would I want that? There's nothing in it. Butter. I like that. And the fat police and the cholesterol police in the school of dieticians, in the school of cardiologists, in the school of almost every physician is crazy. It's crazy. It's propaganda. It's not science, it's propaganda. Butter got vilified because butter's got cholesterol. Anything, animal foods, the animal kingdom has cholesterol equals cholesterol bad, so vegetable oils, no cholesterol, okay? Seed oils, no cholesterol, good animal fat, bad says who? Where are your vitamins? Where are your fat soluble vitamins?
It's in animal fat, and if the whole premise is wrong, cholesterol, bad animal, fat, bad, what can I say? And people are pushing back. Now, I've been pushing back for 40 years, 50 years. It's crazy. Always said it. It's crazy. You've made cholesterol a bad guy. That's why eggs limit them. You know how many thousands and hundreds of thousands of physicians said that? Limit them? Oh, yeah, you can have an egg one or two a week. You can have 10 eggs a day. You're better off eating an egg. Think of anything else other than a steak. What could be better for you? You got a whole guys religion that's been developed over food, okay? Veganism and vegetarianism. It's religion, folks. It's not science, because if you take science, you have to look at the nutritional. You have to look at the nutritional density and profile of foods, and because there's cholesterol in it, oh, well see.
Cholesterol's bad. It's going to give you a heart disease, give you a heart attack. It's clogging up your arteries. No, it's not. No, it's not. And so people ask me all the time, every day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, including Christmas, I get questions about cholesterol doc. My dog says my cholesterol is too high. And I usually say, it's not high enough. It's not high enough. You want to lower it? I want it. It's not high enough. Foods that are vilified, okay? Steak, eggs, right? But they vilified it. They vilified these things, and was it true? No, wasn't true. Never true. Never will be true. But you guys know better. But anyway, I thought I'd bring that out. I could do coffee too. That's been vilified. It's acidic. Dr. Martin, it's no good for you. I used to say, I've got 150 studies.
I've got over 200 now on the benefits of coffee. I always told you that's a real vitamin C. Okay? I pontificated long enough this morning, guys, we appreciate you coming on for our Canadian friends on this holiday Monday. Thank you for coming on. For my American friends, thank you very much for being faithful to this program. We appreciate it. Tell your friends, tell your neighbors, tell your family, okay? Because we're going to give you the truth about nutrition here and very opinionated, very opinionated. Anyway, that's me. Okay? We love you guys dearly and sincerely, we'll talk to you soon.
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